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bullet Posted: 10/02/06 at 4:26pm
We have a standing rule that you cast the people that audition, then if you still have some roles to fill you are permitted to call whoever you want and offer them the roles.  We have one guy in our theatre that didn't audition once, but ended up in all the shows in the season!
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bullet Posted: 10/02/06 at 5:44pm
No real rules in the theaters I usually work in regarding un-castable parts.  In the past when there's a part I haven't been able to cast thru auditions, I've gone to the phones asking someone who hasn't read.  Sometimes its a matter of needing a young woman or man and simply not having anyone young enough at auditions. (Or old enough, or tall enough or whatever)  Other times, its a matter of talent with the pool not being deep enough for me to feel safe casting someone with less experience or talent.  That's not to say I haven't cast what I think of as "projects" knowing I may need to spend more time with this person or that, but ultimately I feel I owe it to my actors, theater company and audience to put the best product possible on stage.  If that means I don't cast someone others might feel is "just right" for the role, so be it.  It has never (up to now) become an issue.

Has anyone had problems with this?   (Boy, there's a stupid question)
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bullet Posted: 10/02/06 at 10:38pm
I know CT's all have their own rules, but I have to say that if you cast people that blow off your auditions, and then call you up and "offer their services" or some nonsense, then you're not only encouraging their pompous *sslike behaviour, but you are more importantly DIScouraging new people from auditioning for your company. If it's known that people are not cast based on the auditions, but rather by who has the director's phone #, then why would any new person waste their time? That being siad if you don't have enough warm bodies at the auditions then all bets are off and you should call everyone you can think of, but if someone calls you they should have one good excuse for not being at the auditions.
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bullet Posted: 10/02/06 at 11:58pm

Originally posted by castMe

  Other times, its a matter of talent with the pool not being deep enough for me to feel safe casting someone with less experience or talent.  That's not to say I haven't cast what I think of as "projects" knowing I may need to spend more time with this person or that, but ultimately I feel I owe it to my actors, theater company and audience to put the best product possible on stage.  If that means I don't cast someone others might feel is "just right" for the role, so be it.  It has never (up to now) become an issue.

Has anyone had problems with this?   (Boy, there's a stupid question)

I was on the casting committee for a production of City of Angels and the director and I agreed that we didn't have an Alura that was quite right but insisted on casting from those that had auditioned.   My suggestion was to either have another casting call for Alura or call someone that was appropriate for the role.   The woman that was cast was talented but I felt didn't have the stage presence and sensuality that the role needs to convey.  As a matter of fact I had directed her in another production the previous season and was wonderful in that show.   The woman was cast and as I had predicted she made a valiant effort but fell far short of what the role required.

For me if I don't get what I want at auditions I have no problem going out and seeking who I need.   Unlike the director of City I do not believe that it's affront to the people who auditioned.   My first obligation is to give an audience the show they paid to see with talented performers that fit the requirements of their roles.

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bullet Posted: 10/06/06 at 2:15am
OH man, I don't check the message board for one lousy month and look what happens. Ya'll have a great discussion without me.  My 2 cents for whatever it's worth is that I used to call because I thought "it was a nice touch" and that it was something you "should" do but I hate dand dreaded it.  Then a producer looked at me aghast once when I said I needed to go home and call everyone and I haven't done it since.  Such a weight off my shoulders.
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bullet Posted: 10/15/06 at 5:15pm
At our theater, actors who are not cast are not called.  Thank you cards are sent to them.  I can understand the sentiments of those who feel people should be contacted, but I wonder how many would tell someone the real reason they were not cast but would come up with some lame, general, all-purpose comment designed not to offend.  When I am not cast, I usually know the reason(s).  Sometimes those reasons are fair in my eyes, sometimes not.  I live with it.  As a director and actor, I have worked with people that frankly, I would never want to work with again, from people who are chronically late or do not show at all, to those who never learn lines as written and don't care that they cause problems for every one else in the cast, to those who have no talent and think they do.  Those people, I will avoid because they will never change or make an effort to improve.
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bullet Posted: 10/25/06 at 12:39am
I think any half-decent actor can get a sense of why he wasn't cast- fair or unfair.  Whenever I've gotten that call thanking me for auditioning, letting me know I wasn't cast, etc., I always feel awkward, and I know the person calling me feels the same way.  On the other hand, it is annoying to be waiting and never contacted- if the director tells you at auditions that everyone who's cast will know by Wednesday at 10 pm, that's different, but sometimes I've just been waiting, wondering, Is it too late to expect being offered a role....?  When I direct, I never make phone calls to people I didn't cast.  I think the most appropriate way to handle the situation is for the producer to send out a generic email to rejectees as soon as the show's cast saying, We're sorry, please audition next time, blah, blah, blah.  Actors may still see through the tactful b.s., but it's not nearly as embarrassing.
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bullet Posted: 10/25/06 at 12:52am
Also, regarding the other issue discussed here, about rules for how you finish casting if you don't have what you want at auditions, whether you go with Person A, who is not so talented but actually auditioned, versus Person B, who didn't audition, but would do a better job, that's a tough call, and it depends on the situation, but I've tended to rule more on the side of casting the better actor.  It may tick off the theater board and make them less likely to hire me back, but I figure, I have an obligation to THIS show: I can either do it on their terms, and it will be p.c. but eh or on my terms and it will be a better show.  I've cast actors I wasn't crazy about but who showed up to auditions, and I ended up getting decent performances out of them, but they were never that great, and what I did get was the result of a lot of work and wasted time.
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bullet Posted: 10/28/06 at 10:05am
I usually don't call the people that I don't cast.  I call the ones I want to make sure they will accept the part, then post them on the web site so everyone can see the cast list and know my decision.  I do tell them that if they would like to contact me for questions, I will gladly talk to them about it.  If they do ask, I tell them as gently and honestly why and what to work on for the next time.  I do find that most already know where they went wrong or assume I have picked a "favorite" if their ego can't take it.  If however, it was a close decision, I will call both actors personally.
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bullet Posted: 12/15/06 at 3:26pm
I'm resurrecting an old thread just to complain.  How rude is that?  Embarrassed  Nevertheless:
 
Auditions were scheduled for two weeks ago for a play which, to remain anonymous and all, we will refer to as "Jackbeth." LOL  The day before, we were hit with an ice storm, followed by seven or so inches of snow, and very few people (including myself) could make it to auditions.
 
Further auditions were scheduled for the following Saturday (a week ago).  I, and six others, auditioned at that time.  Eight people had actually made it to the initially scheduled auditions.
 
The director indicated at that time that he had a few more people coming in on Tuesday, and that he would "try to have the cast selected by the weekend."
 
I have heard nothing.  It is not the policy of this theatre to call auditioners who are not selected.  There are certain problems with the theatre's website, and this season casts have not been posted until well after rehearsals started for other shows.
 
So:
 
When do I assume that I'm not cast?  (Those who have seen me audition would probably answer, "immediately after auditions."  Let's keep this abstract, though.)  Tonight?  Tomorrow?  Monday?  February, when the show goes up?
 
The point being, there should be SOME mechanism for the unwashed, unwanted, and undesireable masses (probably about three people in this case) to find out that they aren't cast.
 
The last show I didn't get cast in (it's a regular thing for me!), the director emailed out a cast list.  Bless his little heart.
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