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Quote MusicManD Replybullet Topic: Rehearsal scheduling...
    Posted: 3/21/11 at 4:09pm
This has been something of a struggle for me this year.  Due to increasing commitments of many of my student actors- primarily sports practices- I've had to cut rehearsals down from 3 hours (6-9) to 2 hours (7-9).  I refuse to go past 9pm on a school night except during production week.

I ran the Musical rehearsals three nights a week (Mon, Tue, Thu) and started rehearsal about 10 weeks before the show.  Things felt rushed to me.  When the Spring Play came around, then, I auditioned the first week of January and started rehearsals the next week, giving us about 8 or 9 weeks to put it together.  Since it was a somewhat shorter show and had no music involved, I cut back to only two nights a week, still 7-9.  Bad weather came in and canceled a few of our rehearsals, and rescheduled school events from that bad weather canceled a few others, so all in all we had something like 14 rehearsals, including production week.  Maybe 30 hours, tops.  We got it done and it was a great show, but it was enough to raise my blood pressure a few points.

Looking at next year, I'd really like to do "Seussical," but I am concerned about the additional musical demands.  If I audition the first week of the school year and begin rehearsing immediately, I can get 11-12 weeks of rehearsals.  This gives us around 70 hours of rehearsal.  This, however, does make for a LONG rehearsal process and might burn some kids out, especially the athletes.  PLUS that would cost me an additional $400 since the Seussical materials are generally sent out only 8 weeks before the show.

Instead, I wonder if it would be worthwhile to extend the rehearsal time to 10pm (I hate that).  That way, we can achieve the same 70 hours of rehearsal in 8 weeks.  That makes for eight weeks where the athletes are putting in 14 hour days, and the shorter schedule REALLY scares me.

So what sort of a schedule do you guys run?  How many weeks, how many days a week, and for how long?
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Quote NDTENOR Replybullet Posted: 3/23/11 at 11:01pm
I was fortunate enough to have done only one show in High School. I didn't start doing community theater until 25 years after high school but since then I've done about 35 community theater shows in about 11 years. It is my hobby and I love it.

   That being said there were a number of experience from high school that may be worth considering.
Generally I felt that there were way too many rehersals . Kids that age, although lacking in experience, greatly make up for it it energy and spirit and absorb things much more quickly. I can recall being boared a lot of the time. If your rehersals are efficent and well organized the kids will do it on a much shorter schedule.

   Another thing I seem to remember was the director ( a teacher, that I assume you are too ) not really giving enough responsibility for the production to the students. Everything, as I remember, seemed to be under the directors close scrutiney and there was very little of "spreading out" of responsibility to students. That unquestionably "slowed" thing down too. It's suprising what can happen when you give more responsibility to students....

Another thing to consider.... I noticed in your schedule that rehersals were only during the weekdays from 7 to 9 or 10. Don't you think students might be a little tired at that time? And possibly conserned about getting their homework done? Is it against the rules to have rehersal on Saturday or Sunday? Personally I have always prefered weekend rehersals as I am rested and much less tired after being at work all day. Possibly students might feel the same?

And the final thing to say : Is the show "Their" show or "Your" show. If the students do a good show, ( For YOUR sake ) but don't learn anything ... was it really worth doing at all? That is, are you doing a show which challenges them and makes them learn something and inspires them or just a show where some of your friends afterward say ( and possible the Principal)... Oh! That was a nice show! So that you are really just trying to make yourself look good?    

   
   
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Quote Rorgg Replybullet Posted: 3/25/11 at 12:52pm
Yeah... I'm going to avoid questioning your motives and answer the question at hand:

12 weeks is a really long rehearsal process.  You want to avoid the trap of "well, yeah, we're pretty much ready, and the show's still 3 weeks away.  Uhh... let's run it again!" because it can really take the steam out of a production.  Depending on the show, though, the extra time can be used for ... you know ... acting, the thing that tends to get overlooked in musicals with kids.  The thing is, Seussical is so cartoony (and I say this in a loving way, I've played Horton and am tossing around the idea of doing it again this summer) that there's not a lot there you probably need to do.

So, given that, I would go with the shorter timeframe, and maybe split the difference... 9:30 rehearsal, and then schedule longer rehearsals (to 10) for the last 3-4 weeks or so.  If everything's going great, and you don't need the extra time (and you may not), you'll know before you get there and can announce it.  But having a 3-hour rehearsal at the point when you're doing runs is a TERRIFIC help.  Run your trouble spots from the night before, make adjustments, then run the show.  And you'll actually have time for it.
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Quote Theatermama Replybullet Posted: 3/26/11 at 7:10pm
I work with kids a lot and  my career requires me to work 2 nights a week which cuts into rehearsal time.  Do you call the whole cast for all rehearsals?  I never call the whole cast until we begin running acts or they are learning a whole cast scene.
 
I just did "You're a Good Man Charlie Brown." We auditioned before Christmas and then began rehearsals the week the college kids came back (2nd week of January) We opened March 6 - so about 10 weeks of rehearsal but only Tuesday, Thursday from 6-9 and Sunday 12-3.  Sunday was dance rehearsal and all were called but Tuesday and Thursday were called by scene - grouping as many of the same characters together as I could so no one, not even Charlie, had to be there for all rehearsals.   I run this organization twice - first to block it and second to work it and then we run acts and finally we run the show.  I start my calendar with tech week and work backwards so I can make sure I get the number of run throughs I want and then I start at the beginning and schedule to the runthroughs taking into consideration their scheduling conflicts.
 
I could see that this could work well with students varied schedules.
 
Our theater teacher rehearses 2-3 days a week after school until closer to the show.  Kids write in a book when they can't be there and she works around those when she rehearses that day.
 
Our choir teacher rehearses the show during choir class and then 2 nights a week from 7-9 until tech week which is 6-10.
 
You could call whole cast rehearsals a couple of times a week but then have scene or song rehearsals at other times.      
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Quote MusicManD Replybullet Posted: 3/26/11 at 7:52pm
^^ This was pretty much how I ran the musical.  We did Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Mondays were leads only.  A couple of rehearsals were chorus only.  I also called in some people early when I could, or let other cast members come in later, depending on the rehearsal's needs.  The show wasn't SUPER music heavy - maybe ten songs total - so we had more blocking rehearsals than music rehearsals.

I'm also doing a lot of things alone because there's nobody to share the load with.  The actual drama teacher used to help with the musical, but now he's had to pick up a lot of other classes and he's now unavailable.  I have my choir accompanist available to help, but there's only so much she can do.  I had her running music with students while I worked with others, but even that wasn't very effective since most of the leads were involved with every scene.  The end result is that for that show, I could really only effectively rehearse one thing at a time.

I can't justify using my choir class as rehearsal for the musical for two reasons.  First, not every student is involved (although I will be pushing for more students to be involved next year).  Secondly, we have a concert that happens about three to four weeks before the musical opens.  Thus, classtime has to be devoted to that material.  It's terribly tempting, though, to use some of that time.

I do like that technique of working backwards from tech week when figuring out rehearsal schedules.  I should do that in order to figure out how many weeks we'll need.  Now if only MTI would send out something USEFUL in their perusal copies- like scores!
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Quote NDTENOR Replybullet Posted: 3/28/11 at 12:03am
Music Man D:

    I seem to hear from what you say you have "no help" with these students. Yet from other responses I seem to hear that you've been around the community theater circuit a bit. Don't you possibly think that some of these community theater people, who you probably know, who have tons of experiences would be willing to help you out if you asked them? I've done over 35 community theater shows and I know people who have done over 300. I think the help is out there if you look for it. And many community theater people would be glad to lend a hand , free of charge. Unless , of course , you WANT to be the big fish in the small pond.
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Quote Theatermama Replybullet Posted: 3/28/11 at 12:39am
If you have a local college with a theater department, you can often get students who want some directing, lighting or acting coach experience that can make you not feel alone and also using Juniors and Seniors in leadership roles is very useful. My son directed the huge spring production his Junior year and the teacher was meerly the technical director and helped produce it. It was very successful and he is now a Junior theater major at state university.  That year the students did everything to produce the show themselves with guiding only.  Our choir often uses student choreographers and student acting and vocal coaches.   Don't overlook parents either - we use a big parent contingent to take care of many things from designing and building sets to taking care of marketing and publicity and tickets and concessions etc.
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Quote MusicManD Replybullet Posted: 3/28/11 at 6:01pm
NDTenor: That is the second time you have come into my thread and questioned my motives. I simply don't appreciate it. To be frank, I've read a lot of your posts on this site, and you consistently present yourself as an actor who believes his own views are superior to the director's. You consider a director who takes time to teach inexperienced actors to be a "tyrant" and refuse to accept direction unless it is from the author himself. You've even said you would quit a show over artistic differences. Why on earth, then, should I give any prudence to anything you've had to say?

Here is my situation- we lived in this community when I was growing up, but moved away 15 years ago. I graduated high school, finished college, then taught band and choir several years in another school two hours away. Got a better job here and was handed the director's post for the drama department. Although I did a dozen shows with the community theatre here from 1989 to 1997, after we moved I did another few dozen with school, community, and professional theatre groups around the state. Now I'm back, and plan to get involved with the CT again (in fact, they are auditioning for their first summer show on April 30, and I plan to be there), but truth be told, I only know one person still involved with the group. Once I begin to build more relationships, you can bet I will be utilizing those resources.

These two shows this year have been the first time I've been the sole director. I've been the musical director, assistant director, co-director, and I even directed a few one act plays, but these two shows have been my first experiences as DIRECTOR.

I am finding parents and older students to be incredibly useful. Our stage manager is a senior that I have found incredibly helpful. For the musical, he came up to me two weeks before the production and offered his help- he solved several strange issues for me (a vacuum cleaner that had to explode, creative ways to dress the set, etc). For the play, I had him on board from the beginning, along with a senior student director and a senior who was doing set design as his drama class project. We outlined the entire show and set them loose on it. I still had to be around to help and supervise, but those students made the show work. Parents: I have a FANTASTIC mother of a junior (thank the lord, she also has an eighth grade son, so I'll keep her for four more years) who not only feeds the kids every show night, but is a professional face painter. The play was a fairy tale-themed show, so she did almost the entire cast's makeup.

With every show, I make notes, both mental and physical, to improve the shows in the future. I get new ideas and learn from the past, often changing what I do to see if certain things are necessary. For example, the musical had a regimented rehearsal calendar that I found to be bulky, so I tried the play with a much more fluid schedule. Next year, the regimented calendar comes back because I didn't like how the more flexible schedule worked. That's why I'm here- to learn from others' experience.

Toward that end, Rorgg and Theatermama, thank you for your great suggestions. We do have a couple of active college theatre programs around, and I hadn't even though about utilizing those resources.

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Quote Theatermama Replybullet Posted: 3/28/11 at 11:11pm
Music Man - more power to you and thank you for bringing theater to your students.  My boys have been involved in school theater as well as CT since they were 5 years old (the youngest since he was 3) and it has been a most wonderful experience. 
 
As a director in a very bare bones CT - I tend to do all of the roles or more than one or two - I usually produce, direct and often just do the stagemanaging myself and do costumes and design the set (though my husband builds them for me) - I hire in my lighting designer and choreographer and music director if it is a musical.  If my oldest is in town, he lights my shows for me and usually assists in many ways and my middle son is my graphic designer and sound designer and I am going to teach my youngest how to be a stage manager then we have a whole company in our house.  I do my own programs, fund raising and publicity, so I know where you are coming from. 
 
 I have really worked at trying to get other people on my team and it does make it more fun and easier but sometimes I just prefer to do it myself.  I now have a stage manager who has done a couple of shows with me, a music director and a choreographer I can usually count on, and a lighting designer if I remember to reserve her early enough.
 
So when my boys do school theater, I am a very active parent - I specialize in publicity for them as I have built a wonderful link list to publicize.  I help with costumes but have never been asked to design for them though I began my theater career as a costume designer, I do tickets, concession, food for cast, prop finding and set painting.  My middle son is in both the school theater program as well as the show choir which does a full fledged musical each fall and that is totally run by parents for everything besides directing and music.  IT is a choir of 75+ kids and all of them are in the musical.  I serve on several of the committees, but I am a sophomore parent and many are on their 2nd or 3rd child going through so I am still a newbie here.  The theater program, I am on my second son through that and in my 6th year so I have more clout and she has me for 6 more years as I have another son 2 years out.
Flexibility and organization is the key skill to have and it sounds like you have that.  YOu are also willing to try things and change them if they don't work. I direct differently than a lot of my collegues but it works for me and I am always proud of what ends up on that stage and as long as you can say that - you are fine.  Good luck on your auditions, I like to be on stage too when I get the chance.
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Quote MusicManD Replybullet Posted: 3/28/11 at 11:30pm
See, I don't mind delegating some tasks, but I also don't mind doing them myself. The whole process is really fun. Things continue to fall through the cracks- I need to figure out a really reliable way to publicize, for example- but I get better every time. I love theatre, and had my family stayed in this community through my high school graduation, I very likely would have majored in theatre rather than in music. Having this opportunity to indulge in and share my love of the stage with my students is simply priceless.
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