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Quote peacock Replybullet Topic: lighting one side of the stage
    Posted: 1/31/11 at 11:58am
I am a non-techie director working outside the USA. We rent a theater with limited lighting, really old. I have a play that has two scenes running at the same time, so I need to be able to light one side and have the other side dark. We did the same thing a couple of years ago, but a lot of light spilled onto the supposedly dark side.

How can I do this so that the dark side is as dark as possible? Would it be best to light more from the side than overhead? Please try to make your explanation "user friendly." Thanks.
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Quote Spectrum Replybullet Posted: 1/31/11 at 2:21pm
I would think using 'barn doors' (little side flaps on the instruments to limit the fan out of a light beam) and focused lighting (and avoiding 'general coverage' or fresnel lighting where possible) would help limit the spill over.  Something else to consider is the color and position of reflective surfaces (e.g. flats, furniture, clothing, floor color, etc.), since brighter and lighter colors will reflect and/or scatter light into the ‘dark part’ of the stage.  I’ve done zone or area lighting before, but I’m certainly no ‘pro’ at it.  What do some of you more experienced folks say?
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Quote JoeMc Replybullet Posted: 1/31/11 at 7:25pm

A good point about light bouncing off surfaces Spectrum.

I'd use profile {[ellipsoidal] hard edge} lanterns by utilising the beam shape masking blades, to define the hard edge  area division, these can be focussed from the 'Y' position front of house bar or from the Perch's.

With the Fresnel [soft edge] lanterns they can be used to smooth out the zoned area, as suggested using barn doors [masking] depending on the size of the zone or just cross light the Profile lanterns.

Also watch out for any light spill that may creep in from other areas of the theatre, such as exit lights ect.



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Quote didj1028 Replybullet Posted: 2/01/11 at 7:33pm
It's definitely going to depend on your angles and reflective qualities of floor/furniture/etc.  in general I'd say to keep the right side of the stage lit and keep spill off the left side you'd be best aiming your light from the opposite diagonal (SL end of lighting pipe aimed at SR side of stage).  
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Quote vickifrank Replybullet Posted: 2/01/11 at 8:31pm
Not a lighting solution, but you could play one scene in front of a scrim and one scene behind the scrim.  That allows you to keep the sets in place.
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Quote PaulyWally Replybullet Posted: 2/03/11 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by JoeMc

I'd use profile {[ellipsoidal] hard edge} lanterns by utilising the beam shape masking blades, to define the hard edge  area division, these can be focussed from the 'Y' position front of house bar or from the Perch's.


I agree with using ellipsoidals for this purpose.  You can use ellipsoidals with shutters to confine the light exactly how you want it.

Otherwise, barn doors and luck. 
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Quote David McCall Replybullet Posted: 2/03/11 at 10:41pm
Ellipsoidals do allow you to control the light very precisely You can add donuts to sharpen the cut, or top hats (snoots) to reduce the spill.
 
As has been mentioned earlier, light bouncing off of items in the set. Even a black floor will bounce an amazing amount of light.
 
If the actors on the dark side can freeze, the audience will soon forget all about them.
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Quote JoeMc Replybullet Posted: 2/04/11 at 3:36am
Originally posted by David McCall

 
If the actors on the dark side can freeze, the audience will soon forget all about them.
 This is a very good piont David! 
From the very fist blocking the luvvies need to rehearse being still by refraining from rapid movements or reacting to what is going on stage in any way. Even coughs, sneezes. picking their noses or scratching their nether regions!Embarrassed


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Quote gelcat Replybullet Posted: 3/18/11 at 2:00pm
actually, depending on the venue, you may or may not be able to change the rep. hang much - and if the place is really old, there may or may not be ellipsoidals in the hang - you may do very well in investing in a couple of rolls of black wrap to be able to block light from particular areas.  Just make sure you're not covering any ventilation holes on the instruments. 
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