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Poll Question: How quickly do you strive to make scene changes in your shows?
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bullet Posted: 8/20/08 at 12:22pm
There's no such thing as a scene change that's too fast LOL
 
My rule used to be no longer than 30 seconds, now even that seems too long, try to shoot for 15-20 seconds whenever possible.  Of course safety is the #1 priority, that's why we choreography and rehearse scene changes just like dance numbers, the problem is who dances well in the dark with 10 foot platforms. hehe.
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bullet Posted: 8/21/08 at 11:25am
I personally attend theater just to watch scene changes. There's nothing I hate more than dipping to black while watching a tech crew bump into each other for a minute and half while the band vamps.

Solution? When I directed Treasure Island, almost all the scene changes happened in full light while the action continued downstage or around the moving set. Our longest transition was going from the town into the ship. We choreographed it to music and I actually had to slow the cast down so it would happen in time. Applause at the end. Another transition from the island to the ship had pirates fighting on the moving pieces.

The one change that happened behind a closed curtain went from an empty stage to the inn which was 30' wide. It happened in 8 lines from the actor in front of the curtain. Audience gasps at the open.

These should not be an afterthought handled in hell week. They should be choreographed just like your dance numbers or blocking. You wouldn't let an actor stand onstage for a full minute in silence because it would kill the momentum of the show. Same for set changes.
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bullet Posted: 8/21/08 at 6:12pm
Our set changes are excrutiatingly long.  Mostly because I am the only one who is in our CT mainly for tech.  Our sets are much too heavy, as nobody else has any concept of building stage sets.  There are too many set changes and short scenes.  Playing music during an insanely long blackout does not really help much.  Everyone else acts like there is nothing wrong with overly long blackouts.  Our last play, I just stayed in the light booth and didn't even go backstage because it was such a nightmare.   Having very little space backstage doesn't really help either.
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bullet Posted: 8/25/08 at 12:43pm

Reading some of the scene changes posts did remind me of when we did "Noises Off".  Of course those scenes changes were longer than 30 seconds, hehe.  But the audience loved watching the run crew do the change during the intermissions.  We left a decent level of light on the set (for the crew to see) but also because the audience loved seeing those huge set peices turn and roll across the stage.  Several times the end of the scene shifts got applause and by the end of the run they had it down to less than 5 minutes from what started out taking about 8-9 minutes of a 10 minute intermssion.

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bullet Posted: 9/14/08 at 5:42pm
I learned the hard way.  Scene changes behind a curtain in the dark that take 5 minutes are no fun for crew or audience.  I like the choreographed ones the best.
 
The Odd Couple there were two of us changing props about and we were trying hard to do it in blues with some cool music playing.  (fun finding flung food on the black stage with stage manager whispering in headset "pickle downstage by the chair" and groping for it)  I'm not sure how long we took...not the whole song, that's for sure.  Our fastest changes were because we had a great "Felix".  He was a fantastic "futzer".  One scene he pretty much cleaned everything for us...we had no excuse but to have a fast scene change.
 
I'm in tech week now...trying to change lots of cooking props without a hitch. The choreography is fun.
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Scene changes in SILENCE should be 15 seconds or less if at all possible.
Scene changes with MUSIC can be 15 to 30 seconds if need be.

If the amount of time required to pass IN THE PLAY between the ending scene and the following scene is short, then the scene change should be as short as you can manage.
If the amount of time required to pass IN THE PLAY between the ending scene and the following scene is LONG, then the scene change may be a bit longer, just to reinforce the passage of time IN THE PLAY.

Creative scene changes can be entertaining.  EXAMPLE:  In Neil Simon's "Plaza Suite" we had only 1 intermission between Act 1 and 2, so we had the stage crew come on dressed as hotel staff (bellhops, waiters, chambermaids) and perform the scene change between Act 2 and 3 under full lights with music playing over.  It took more than 15 to 30 seconds, but provided a bit of visual diversion so it didn't seem long at all.
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bullet Posted: 2/12/09 at 1:20pm
I love the scene changes that are creative as Spence mentioned.  If the audience can see it then it should be entertaining, otherwise you should devise to make the change behind a drop, a curtain, or in a darkened zone of the stage while action is taking place elsewhere.
 
If the scene change is visible, it should entertain if at all possible and last no longer than the entertainment factor allows.  And if not visible, then the rule ought to be 15 seconds without music and up to 30 seconds with.
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