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    Posted: 10/17/06 at 11:44am

Excuse me, folks, while I let out some frustration here.

We're a dozen rehearsals out from opening night and I'm having some problems with my bunch (that's 27 kids, aged 5-16, btw).  We're doing The Best Christmas Pageant Ever!, a play selected not only because it's a great story, but also because of the ease of costuming (present day clothing).  The kids were to put together their own "kid" costume, and I'm doing the costumes for the "pageant".  Costume deadline is Oct. 30.  I'm concerned because I now have kids coming up to me saying they don't have anything to wear ... even one of the kids playing a Herdman!

Some of my older kids are just now telling me they might miss tech week because of sports conflicts.  (I'm working with the parents to work on the coach about this one.)  The missed rehearsals because of sports are one thing, but when they simply forget or a parent calls and tells me her 1st grader has too much homework to do to make it to rehearsal it really gets my goat. 

I have actors who don't know their lines (or line, in some cases) and others who are too busy exploring the air in front of them to realize everyone else in the scene has left the stage.  Others can't sit still even if you've glued them to the chair.

I know what some of you are thinking:  "You took it on yourself taking on 27 kids", "Been there; done that", "You still have 12 rehearsals and you're already that far?!  Wow", or "I'll be right over with the vodka and a dry shoulder."

I'm not a novice at this ... I've worked with kids in plays for 20 years, I taught for 10 years ... and, for the most part, this play has been a great experience for everyone.  Even the community has been wonderful about pitching in.  A secondhand store the next town over has been very generous in donating anything I need (Just give us a call and we'll put it aside for you) and a community member played props mistress for me.  Everyone for 50 miles around is hyped about the show and we may have to schedule an extra performace. 

I don't want it to come off looking like the little "reader's theatre" plays that they do here in 4th grade or the holiday concerts where the little ones are waving to Mommy and Daddy in the audience.  A community play has not been done in this town in over 20 years, and no one has ever mentioned if a children's play has ever been attempted.  A lot of these kids really have talent, but they've never had the opportunity to show it.  (Even I'm afraid of Imogene and Gladys ~ they're that good!)

Okay ... I'm done.  Anyone care to comment?!  I'd welcome other horror stories or some sage advice. 

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bullet Posted: 10/17/06 at 2:56pm
Right BEFORE casting, every student AND PARENT should sign a contract,
recognizing the responsibilities they are taking on.

It doesn't COMPLETELY halt the problems - but it easily cuts it down by 3/4.

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bullet Posted: 10/17/06 at 4:00pm
I would say that missing rehearsal during tech week is an absolute "no-no"; however, that probably had to have been said at the beginning.  At this point, I think you're stuck and can only do what you can do.  This experience ought to give you a wonderful list you can pass out next year (particularly to parents) of the responsibilities and expectations for the show and emphasize that your aren't just filling the air.  We are living at a time when parents expect that their children should be allowed to do everything that strikes their fancy whether the kids have the time or inclination.  These same parents schedule their kids entire summer and every spare minute at other times of the year.  Having said that, I know that parents have to be involved and actively supporting the show right from the beginning if the show is to be a success in terms of your goals.  As for the first grader with too much homework, I would be inclined to try to find out if this is true and, if it is, call out the dogs on that teacher or that principal or that school system.  No wonder kids hate school.
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bullet Posted: 10/17/06 at 5:08pm

God bless you Nanette!  Been there - done that - I've directed BCPE 4 times. It is a wonderful Christmas show and I never get tired of it.  It's fun to see the kids grow up and come back to "move up the cast list." Going from a baby angel to Gladys to Imogene to Beth. I can share a few horror stories.  I had a parent once pull both her kids out after the opening weekend, just to cause her ex-husband grief because his family had bought tickets for the next weekend. Nice lady - huh? Luckily all the kids in the show knew everyone else's lines and I easily found two kids to take over their lines. Unfortunately, it is very commonplace with a large cast of busy kids, to not have everyone there until dress rehearsal - and sometimes not until opening night.  After my first two times of directing this show (any kid's show) I wised up and started casting an understudy for every main character in the show.  I also schedule an understudy show to make it worth while for the understudies and their parents.  That way they get their 15 minutes of fame. Casting understudies can solve a couple of possible problems:

1) You have someone to read their lines when they aren't at rehearsal.

2) You can make it very clear that if any child becomes a problem with behavior, or absenses they can (and will) be quickly replaced. We are not a babysitting service. I also insist that parents stay for rehearsals (in a separate room of course).

3) Understudies came in VERY handy for me the year that Beth (the main character / narrator) became very ill and couldn't be in one of the shows.  It also came in handy the same year when Hobie (a smaller part) literally fell and broke his leg at dress rehearsal when his foot got caught in his dad's robe. 

You know, you're never too old to learn something! I have been directing children's theatre for many years, and I never thought about having the kids (and the parents) sign a contract! Thanks Tristan for that idea!  I can see how it could help eliminate a lot of problems!

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bullet Posted: 10/17/06 at 5:08pm
We (my wife and I) are cuurently directing Pageant due to open the day after Thanksgiving.  At auditions we made it very clear that "we own you during tech week".  My exact words.  I don't know yet if we'll have problems when we get closer, but so far, so good. I know this is also closing the barn door after the horse, but something to keep in mind. 

By the way, Juror #3 makes a good point re:homework.  The rule of thumb is usually concidered 10 minutes per subject per grade.  First grade times two subjects should be no more than 20 minutes of homework.


P.S   I bet our Imogene and Gladys are better than yours LOL 
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bullet Posted: 10/17/06 at 5:18pm
My kid started Kindergarden this year and yes she does have homework. It is mostly learning her sight word in prep for reading, We are asked to read with her for 15 minutes each night. no problem for me and hubby as he reads to them every night. He is an actor and does all the voices and stuff for the kids. it is their faveroite Daddy thing to do. As for all those kids you have my sholder to cry on from afar. I feel for you. I would not be brave enough to direct a show with that many little ones. Good luck to you. I think some drinking would be in order when the kids go home!
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bullet Posted: 10/17/06 at 6:06pm

Thanks everyone!  I'm feeling better now.

I did inform everyone up front about attendence during tech week.  Out here in the boonies 4H, FFA, and sports are the important things.  No one has ever considered any of the arts important.  I like the idea of a contract and next time, though, a contract WILL be issued and signed by all parties. 

I also like the idea of the parents being there ... in another room, of course.  Sometimes I'll only need a little one for a quick run-though of their scene and it would help to be able to get them out from under foot.  Thankfully most of them live within 100' of the church/theatre so I can send them out the door and watch them walk home.  If they live any farther, I have a friend's 16-yr-old drive them.  (I'll buy her a car as a thank you .... Hot Wheels, of course!)

suzecue ... Where's the child welfare?

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As far as taking on the little ones;  it's what I do.  I now know, though, who I can count on for the next show and who I don't even bother to photograph for my files at the next audition.  ROFLOL  I think I'll send them home from the next rehearsal all sugared up.  What do you think?!

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bullet Posted: 10/18/06 at 9:14am

I refuse to acknowledge that this thread exists, since my kids and I did not get cast in our local production of BXPE.

We would have showed up, at least!

Oh, and my second-grader has at least an hour's worth of homework every night, and the kindergardener has to do three book reports a month (okay, all she does is draw a picture of her favorite part of a book we read to her, but still. . . .)

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bullet Posted: 10/18/06 at 5:36pm
POB  you didn't audition for me.  I guarantee you would have been cast.  We had only 6 adults try-out for ten roles.  No problem, though.  Went to Plan "B".  Triple cast a young adult male as two men and a women, and tracked down another fireman.  Used most of the boys, but the girls were tougher.  Had 15 or 20 real possibles for 4 or 5 fairly large parts. Strong girl audition, really.

Nanette...........about the bet...........my sincerest wish is we feel the same way about our casting the day after we close. 


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bullet Posted: 10/23/06 at 2:54am

I would suggest that those that only have a line or two (and don't know them) be told (and their parents told too) that if they do not know their lines by a certain date that you will assign the lines to another child. It may also help to pare down a couple of the unfocused ones stage time (if that is possible in the show). It may not be a popular choice, but it may help to polish some of the scenes to be more appealing to a paying audience. 

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