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    Posted: 7/31/06 at 3:17pm
We are a community theater in NW Iowa and have been giving our directors a gratuitiy(not a salary).  We would like to re vamp our finances and wonder what other groups do for their directors.  Do you pay a musical director more than a straight play(we do now), do you pay other tech people? How much do you pay these individuals?  Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
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bullet Posted: 7/31/06 at 3:53pm

All our staff positions are strictly volunteer with the exception of a music director. We don't do musicals very often (our summer fundraiser is the only thing regularly on the schedule), and therefore don't have those skills within the group. However, we have been very successful otherwise with using (qualified) volunteers for directing shows.

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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 9:29am
  We don?t pay anyone & these days, since the advent of emails, not even out of pocket expenses for phone calls.
Some other groups did pay an honorarium or stipends to directors years ago, but not these days.
Over all we have never perpetuated this niche income area for directors, except similar to Mike. for the odd MD on rare occasions.
Every group I know of here, won?t pay out for any production staff & if any thing is paid, this might be in the form of a perdium that may be caused by the production only.
But there again this probably won?t help you there, as we are but a pimple on the backside of the theatre world!

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bullet Posted: 8/03/06 at 4:08pm

God, I wish we could say that we don't pay, but we do.

Musical:  Director $400, Music Director $400, Producer $400, Choreographer $200, Rehearsal Pianist $ 250, Orchestra $175 each (limit 10)

Straight Show: Director $300, Producer $300

We are even having talks about starting to give a stipend to the primary set builder and set dresser.

It never ends...

 

 

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bullet Posted: 8/03/06 at 5:47pm
Originally posted by MartyW

God, I wish we could say that we don't pay, but we do.



God, I wish I could say I work in Marty's theater and get paid for the 100-150 hours I put in while directing a show, but I don't.
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bullet Posted: 8/22/06 at 1:14pm
Marty W -- Thanks for posting this, as I have been asked to direct for "pay" and have no idea what to ask for, as I have always "volunteered" my services.  This gives at least a ball park to begin with.
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bullet Posted: 11/01/06 at 12:18am

In our summer rep we pay almost all the back stage and house staff.  It's an honorarium and we consider it "contracted services" so we are not an "employer."  Our annual budget for a musical, a senior citizen dinner theater and a ballet is about 30 grand a year.  We are 501 c 3 and make enoungh now that we have to file a tax return. 

I think there are some quality issues that make it worth our while to "pay" the key people.   Musicians especially are worth paying a bit for.

 

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bullet Posted: 11/23/06 at 2:31am
Well, it's a little more expensive up here in the far north, but here goes:
director $500
chief carpenter $400
set dresser $200
set director $200
light designer $200
sound designer $100
photographer $100
stage manager $150
public relations $150
apprentice director $100
light board operator $75
sound board operator $75

Most of us regard these stipends as gas money. Musicians are another
category, however, we pay them real money as they are nearly impossible
to get otherwise.   Currently about $30/show.
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bullet Posted: 11/23/06 at 8:27am

I am certainly doing theatre in the wrong place! 

I applaud the groups that can pay their production staff.  We don't get paid stipends here due to budget restrictions.  We do occasionally budget in some money for ochestra members, but that is rare.  Usually everyone is volunteer.  It makes it really tough to get really good musicians as they are able to get paying gigs and can't committ for 2-3 weeks worth of performances. 

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bullet Posted: 11/25/06 at 6:59pm

I belong to the same theatre as MartyW, and I think there's a lesson to be learned from our experience.  You may have noted that he said "we are even having talks about starting to give a stipend to the primary set builder and set dresser". 

THESE ARE VOLUNTEER THEATRES, FOLKS!!!!

30 years ago, our theatre was bullied into giving a director's stipend in order to "attract better directors".  Well, the directors that we attracted were the same people that had been directing for free all along (with a few minor and fleeting exceptions throughout the years.).  My objection to doing so at that time was this:  where will it all stop?  I think that if you look at Marty's listing of all who are "paid" now (or want to be paid in the near future), you'll see that it doesn't stop!!  And, in the minds of the other people that give an equal amount of time and effort to the productions, why should it stop?  Why shouldn't they be paid, too? 

At the risk of being boring and repetitive, THIS IS VOLUNTEER THEATRE, FOLKS!  We are doing it, ostensibly, for the love of it and, frankly, all the bickering that seems to evolve over who is going to be paid and how much they are going to be paid really takes away from the pleasure of participating.

I know the question that is going to be asked by someone is "what if you can't get someone to do it without being paid?"  Well, how about taking some time and effort to train new people that could then take on the position?  How about sending people to workshops, or studying theatrecraft books?  How about reaching out to others in the community that have the necessary skills, but who might not be involved strictly (or at all) in theatre?  Local shop teachers, art teachers, artists, hairdressers - professionals, or even those that use those skills strictly as an avocation!  They might be tickled to be asked and, in fact, have been pleased in the instances that I have experienced!  They might even stick around and become valued members of your theatre! How about calling on people that used to be involved in your theatre in years past but, for whatever reason, have had to stop participating?  They might be available now and just need that little nudge to become active again.  How about calling on people that participate in other theatres in your area, if you are in a place that has a number of theatres in existance?

Don't let yourselves be bullied into paying just because "no-one else can do my job"....no-one is indispensible, even though they may try to make you think that they are.  Don't be snookered into believing that.  There are always other options. 

If you don't pay people now but are thinking about doing so, you might want to learn a lesson that we learned the hard way.....don't open Pandora's cash box.  There are other ways to have a successful theatre.  Think creatively.....after all, aren't us theatre folks supposed to be creative?

(Marty:  you knew this one would smoke me out of the woodwork, didn't you.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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