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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 1:11am



Based on my experience with actors in community theater, if Neil Simon tried to shut down every production that wasn't doing his plays exactly as written his lawyers would be very, very busy:)
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I agree. But besides that fact that I think the show should be done as written. I wouldn't take that chance. It is not worth it.

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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 7:48am
The actual "community theater" in our neck of the woods operates in an old church and the committee are all very conservative..which explains why we ( and another group too) started our own theaters.  We have tried to oust them through elections but failed so decided to just let them be..live and let live.  I guess there's room in every community for "family" theater and then all the rest of us.
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P.S.   I'm glad Neil Simon shut down that show.....it must be maddening to have your play rewritten by every theater hack who thinks he has a better idea or wants to make everyone happy...
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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 12:54pm

I'm in agreement with most everyone on this topic.  This topic seems to surface every coupe of months or so and the answer is the same.  You do not own the work.   You only have a license (to which you've agreed) to perform the work as written.

If you feel that you must modify any dialog get the permission in writing from the licensing agency or the playwright or whatever entity is authorized to do that.   You might be surprised at how many might be willing to accomodate your request depenidng on the specifics of what you want to modify.   But many won't and therefore you have two choices: to do the show as written or not at all.   Seems pretty simple to me.

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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 1:00pm

If you have problems with the language in your play, there is nothing wrong with putting a warning message on your advertising or playbills.  "Warning:  Contains adult language and themes."

This will give advance notice to the prudes and become a source of interest for the curious.

When we did a production of Neil Simon's "Biloxi Blues" we had to warn patrons that there was LOTS of rough language (mostly delivered by the fierce drill-sergeant character). 

Some people were shocked ("But it's NEIL SIMON!?") while others who actually served in the military were convinced we toned down the language because the sergeant wasn't swearing ENOUGH!

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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 1:08pm
Originally posted by Topper

If you have problems with the language in your play, there is nothing wrong with putting a warning message on your advertising or playbills.  "Warning:  Contains adult language and themes."

Excellent idea Topper!   We've done this for many shows that have had language or subject matter issues.   Not to mention gun shots, violence and nudity.

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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 11:41pm
Topper - just because I might have problems with the language in a play does not make me a prude.  I just means I think it is inappropriate and it does not portray the image I want to reflect.  It is often very challenging to find plays that don't have suggestive language or subject matter but that are still real and well written and thought provoking. 
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bullet Posted: 7/24/06 at 11:57pm
That sounded snarky and I didn't mean it to.  Sorry.
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bullet Posted: 7/25/06 at 10:18am

I apologize as well.  I did not wish to suggest that you were a prude, either.  I realize you have an obligation to your audiences.

A very wise teacher once told me:  "Theater is an art form.  Art is created by people with a certain point-of-view.  Any time somebody expresses their point-of-view they are certain to offend somebody else."

In short; you can't please everybody so do what pleases you.

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bullet Posted: 7/25/06 at 12:38pm

Slicksister & Topper I'm not sure either one of you has anything to appologize for.   Language and content seem to always be at odds with either our own personal & audience's sensibilities and mounting productions that feed our soul rather just our pocketbook.

As Slicksister said, "It is often very challenging to find plays that don't have suggestive language or subject matter but that are still real and well written and thought provoking."    I'd like to think that perhaps  it's because much of what's well written and thought provoking is a reflection of real life that's captured more eloquently and susinctly by the playwright.   And most good playwrights (at least I think) leave you asking more questions than drawing hard & fast conclusions.

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