Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Closed Topics (Forum Locked Forum Locked)
 Community Theater Green Room Discussion Board :Archives :Closed Topics
Message Icon Topic: Stage Crew Woes - help!(Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post Reply Post New Topic
<< Prev Page  of 3 Next >>
Author Message
DWolfman
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 7/07/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 134
bullet Posted: 10/21/05 at 6:29pm

Originally posted by Gaafa

The Director is finished - You are now God!

My long-time stage manager won't even let me backstage as a director once the production is audience-ready.  Of course, there is a mutual respect for each other between us, and as a couple of the earlier posters put it, the show and the patrons come first.

You are the authority if your director and board have any sense of theatre and priorities.

Even a man who is pure of heart...
IP IP Logged
slicksister
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 3/20/04
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 105
bullet Posted: 10/21/05 at 11:58pm
I have been involved in many, many, MANY theatre productions as director and SM and as the SM not only have I never NOT allowed the director backstage after the run begins but as a director I have never NOT been allowed backstage.  That's just nuts!
The Main Thing is to Keep the Main Thing the Main Thing
IP IP Logged
Tom_Rylex
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 5/07/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 60
bullet Posted: 10/22/05 at 1:04am
k8tt,

Wow, I really feel for you. It really cheeses me off when someone not only doesn't want to do their job, but they disrespect someone else's job as well. If things went as you described, he should have been bounced out on his ear.

He should be out of your way, if he's going to behave that way. And the lame medication excuse: if he cannot control himself as a rational adult, he shouldn't be backstage, period. Take it to everyone in the group that is supposed to be an authority above you and the director. They need to back you up, if they understand theatre at all. If they as a whole want to choose a director who approves of unprofessional activity over a competent stage manager who is trying to do her job, you really need to question whether you want to stick with them (after you finish this show, of course).

Sorry for the rant -- this is just a hot button issue with me. I'm usually the peacemaker on my shows when friction occurs, but I draw the line when it comes to that kind of abuse. I don't let someone get away with stepping on good people, regardless of what my actual authority is in the show.

-Tom
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
-R. Frost
IP IP Logged
Gaafa
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 3/21/04
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1181
bullet Posted: 10/22/05 at 1:38am
It is a figure of speech.
Meaning that with the directors job being done,  communication is via the SM.
I regard it as a courtesy to advise & ask the SM, as the director, before I attempt to go backstage during or before the show.
As the SM I don?t need a director floating about backstage, like a bad smell & possibly getting anyone up tight.
Without my knowledge!

      Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}

IP IP Logged
falstaff29
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 9/17/04
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 155
bullet Posted: 10/22/05 at 2:53am
I have nothing really to add- everyone else has said what needs to be said- except don't get discouraged!  In my experience as an actor, I've always been impressed by the occasional SM who truly, deeply cares about the show and shows it; he/she is the biggest motivator possible to the rest of the team.  There's nothing quite like a spirited SM.  This guy's a jerk, and you're absolutely in the right to take pride in the value of the production. 
IP IP Logged
Topper
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 1/27/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 543
bullet Posted: 10/22/05 at 12:39pm
HIM:   "I don't take directions from a woman!"

YOU: "Okay. Maybe the person who's replacing you
will. Goodnight."


Hindsight is always 20/20.
"None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone
IP IP Logged
Joan54
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 10/03/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 207
bullet Posted: 10/22/05 at 2:45pm

Well I have my 2 cents to add.....along the lines of what "Topper" said.  I am the female manager of a construction company and despite the bad rap that construction workers get, 99% of the time I am treated with respect.  On the few occasions I have run into a new employee or a subtrade worker who makes a "pussy" comment I fire them or throw them off of the site.  Works every time.

I realize that you can't "fire" a volunteer but I just wanted you to know that you don't have to take his disrespect.  It's not 1950 anymore for crying out loud.

"behind a thin wall of logic panic is waiting to stampede"
IP IP Logged
Mike Polo
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar
Community Theater Green Room

Joined: 2/01/04
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 286
bullet Posted: 10/23/05 at 8:26am

Whatever you do K8tt, don't let the matter drop, otherwise it will come back. Even if you have to "soldier through" this one, medication or no, this guy is trouble. If you plan to work with this group again, make sure you get it up front that from now on, you choose your crew. After all, you're the one who has to work with them.

And the board may have another management issue to deal with... their Artistic Director is putting friendship before the show. This is one reason I really don't care for that particular setup; it gives one person too much power and the quality of the shows can suffer. Perhaps that's a opic for another thread.

Mike Polo
Community Theater Green Room
http://www.communitytheater.org
IP IP Logged
k8tt
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 4/05/05
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 73
bullet Posted: 10/23/05 at 9:47am

Thanks so much for all the support!  I really need it.  Our theatre group is small, in a small town, and we scrape the bottom of the barrel for volunteers. Right now I am ignoring the jerk.  He ignores me, has not said a word, but I catch him staring at me.  Scary.  I now have a list of who I will not work with in the future.

But at the matinee today I will have to speak to the stage crew boys who are back to chattering away and broke the concentration of the leads last night.  It's the 14 - 20 year olds that can't control themselves.  I have FIFTEEN teens backstage and eleven kids under 13.  I'm taking a witch's hat today and will use humor to get their attention.

The Board meets in 10 days and I will bring this up.  The Director ALWAYS comes backstage.  Surprised me the first time, but she just HAD to give notes.  I kick her out occasionally.  We have had a good working relationship up until this problem.

I am very thankful for my wonderful leads (7 of them) and costume crew who have rallied around me.

Thank you for this forum! Clap

IP IP Logged
Joan54
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 10/03/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 207
bullet Posted: 10/24/05 at 8:20am
[QUOTE=k8tt]

   I have FIFTEEN teens backstage and eleven kids under 13.  I'm taking a witch's hat today and will use humor to get their attention.

 (

It's a wonder you aren't the one on medication....
"behind a thin wall of logic panic is waiting to stampede"
IP IP Logged
<< Prev Page  of 3 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums version 8.05
Copyright ©2001-2006 Web Wiz Guide
buy generic cialis are in line cialis canada outcome for yourself viagra sales cost saving benefit viagra uk convert your buy phentermine online pay phentermine cod payment Lenders Everything xanax online your existing xanax overnight absolute must free incest stories online The value gay incest advance The key free dog sex pics cash flow dog sex the reduced noise free gay college guys of the period gay guys