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bullet Topic: Does this seem unfair to anyone else??
    Posted: 10/08/05 at 9:29am
Does this not seem right to anyone else?? I auditioned for a
play, and I didn't get a part at all (Part A) , but they had to move
the girl from Part A to another part (Part B), so instead of getting
me to play Part A, they got a girl that didn't even audition, and
doesn't want to be in the play. So is this not really really
screwed up or is it just me?? Does anyone think I have the right
to be mad??? Because I am.
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bullet Posted: 10/08/05 at 11:07am

You have my sympathy and empathy. The same thing has happened to me (as far as losing a part to someone who didn't even audition, although I did get another part in the show).

I did stay with the show, however, met some wonderful people, got a good response with the part I did play, and even enjoyed the audience's response to the role and the wonderful lines I got to deliver.

Welcome to the wacky world of theatre where a director's whims and wheedlings sometimes are a burden to bear.  While the aforementioned play made me very cautious when working with that director (which we have done many times since, often with great results), I've got some good memories, lessons, and contacts from the experience.

Now you know why actors have to have thick skins, and must try constantly not to have thick heads.

Enjoy and  survive.

Even a man who is pure of heart...
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bullet Posted: 10/08/05 at 4:07pm
Well it wouldn't be that bad if I didn't have to go see my Dad in
it, and hear him talk about it all the time.
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bullet Posted: 10/09/05 at 10:55pm
You definitely have my sympathy as well. I hate to say it but it makes me wonder what the director's rationale is?
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bullet Posted: 10/10/05 at 12:27am
Hang in there!
Some of the best parts I ever got was because I was there at the time.
This is community theatre & things happen & change instantly.
Go with your Dad & even assist with him with his lines, learn the script & rehearse all the parts in front of the mirror at home on your own.
.Get to know the script & as much about the production as you can.
If nothing else you will have this up your sleeve & it may come in handy latter at some time or other.
I don't mean for you to hang about like a bad smell, find something usfull to do!
Even when the show is on the boards, anything can happen & usually does!
With bods not turning up or leaving the show, because they have been offered a better part.
I remember in a production of the King & I, I was contacted at work during the day & asked if I could play  Lun Tha for that nights performance, because the guy had developed a throat infection.
I knew the show only because I had designed the set, but had never took much notice of the individual roles.
I did the part, which was mainly only one major song a few lines & a small dance, but I ended up playing it for the rest of the season.
Don?t spit the dummy because you were over looked, as one door closes another may open unexpectedly!

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bullet Posted: 10/27/05 at 5:11pm

Very unfair and totally innappropriate for a community theatre production.

There are far too many people out there that behave in community theatre as though it were professional theatre. (I would imagine most who are guilty of this are those who are bitter that they never made it professional.) There is a reason why it is called community theatre, and pre-casting really should not take place unless there are literally not enough people auditioning to cover every role in the play being produced.

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bullet Posted: 10/27/05 at 9:33pm
:-)

I totally 100% disagree.

There is nothing in the world wrong with pre-casting IMO.

It gets ugly when the director doesn't inform those auditioning that
pre-cast roles are unavailable - and people are auditioning for roles
that essentially do not exist. That's really mean and not very fair.

But, i've precasted shows - heck - I've CHOSEN shows because of a
certain actor or actress or combination of actors. I don't see
anything wrong with it at all.

Different strokes. :-)

However, theatrebrat has my sympathies - as often as we get passed
over in the theatre, it's never an easy pill to swallow!
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bullet Posted: 10/28/05 at 12:11am

Different strokes indeed.

There is something very improper with pre-casting in the community level, if you bother having auditions at all. It is in very bad form, and shows no desire to be truly community based. If people want to cast their friends and such, they really should foot the bill themselves and rent a hall. Otherwise, why put on the charade to call it community theatre? What community, other than the director's personal circle, is being served by that?

That to me is no different than announcing community theatre auditions, and casting a show, only to provide free meals to the person with the most lines, at the expense of the theatre, or something like that. It is pandering and catering, and it should not be done. People pay money to see community based actors on the stage, not to see who the favorites of John Q. Director are, without giving anyone else a shot.

Those are the sort of things, it seems to me, that turn people away from trying theatre. They know they can never see their name in lights in New York or something, and yet they get treated just as much like a piece of garbage in Sioux City, Iowa, or whatever community theatre area it happens to be.

Announce your intentions from the beginning, at the amateur level. If you do not, and let people audition, you do not have any respect for the community part of the "community theatre."

Community theatre should be equitable, or it just should not call itself such.

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bullet Posted: 10/28/05 at 2:41am
Originally posted by tristanrobin

:-)
It gets ugly when the director doesn't inform those auditioning that
pre-cast roles are unavailable - and people are auditioning for roles
that essentially do not exist. That's really mean and not very fair.


I always precast in my head, but end up recasting in fact.
As I?m always pleasantly surprised by those that turn up for the audition!
From what I have read of the posts, it seams to me, you may have missed tristanrobin point.
Any &/or most directors in community theatre, would probably choose a particular productions with certain performers in mind!
Where it does become a major problem, is when there is not a level playing field, for all those who audition.

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bullet Posted: 10/28/05 at 3:05am

Granted.

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