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    Posted: 10/03/05 at 9:15am

My theater company is beginning production on "Who"s Afraid of Virginia Woolf"  and the actors are clamouring for a gun that shoots an umbrella...not just "a gun" but a rifle...I always thought that I could make anything but this one has me baffled....does anyone know where I could buy such an item?

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bullet Posted: 10/03/05 at 1:34pm
try a magic shop they may have one that shoots a little flag that says bang. maybe you can alter that
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bullet Posted: 10/03/05 at 2:47pm
Thanks....I have tried all the local costume and magic shops and even looked on line...it seems that guns aren't as funny as they used to be and no one is stocking them...anyways  I'll keep looking
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bullet Posted: 10/03/05 at 4:11pm
I have found inexpensive BANG guns online at Magic Makers and Clown Antics:

http://www.clownantics.com/sillystuff.shtml

http://www.magicmakers.com/retail/clown%20stuff/bangguns.h tml

I can't of anything to do but alter them somehow.  I don't think you'll be able to find exactly what you're looking for, but improvising is what makes theater's a challenge! Good Luck!
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bullet Posted: 10/03/05 at 6:38pm
Have you considered modifying an air gun (BB or
pellet shooter)?

I would extend the barrel by gaff taping a similar
sized PVC pipe painted to match the existing barrel.

Inside this extension would be a paper umbrella
secured by a short string (to prevent it flying out of the
barrel entirely).

Theoretically (as I have never actually built one), the
force of the pressurized air should be enough to fire
the umbrella and open it at the same time.

Worth a go, eh?
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bullet Posted: 10/03/05 at 7:03pm
If the umbrella doesn't actually need to fire across the stage, a modification of Topper's idea would work here...

I've made a novelty gun before that fired beanie dobermans (long story). Anyway, your base gun could be a piece of PVC (painted black) bolted to some sort of rifle butt (I cut one off of a color guard gun that I had lying around). Inside, you could mount one of those spring loaded, compact collapsible umbrellas. I'm thinking about the kind that extend, then open up. Someone clever in your group can figure out the best way to trigger the umbrella while it's mounted in the gun.

There is a way to modify this design to actually fire the umbrella across the stage (it should slow down rapidly when it opens), but I couldn't recommend it unless I tried it first. Even then, I couldn't vouch for its safety. Projectiles can be a dangerous thing.

Safety caveat: Use safety rules like it's a real gun! While this could be an amusing visual effect, you don't want someone looking straight down the barrel, or right next to it when it gets fired. Test it before it's used on stage.

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bullet Posted: 10/04/05 at 7:57am
Thank-you all..what good ideas.  I hadn't thought of putting PVC on a gun stock...that solves the problem of getting an umbrella in a barrel.  I will see if I can get it to work.  The umbrella does not have to shoot across the stage.....just open.  I think the air gun idea is great but a little too technical for me ( the simpler the prop the less likely it will fail) so may be there is a way to trigger the umbrella with a shock cord or heavy elastic band instead.  Thanks again..I'll keep you posted.
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bullet Posted: 10/05/05 at 2:27pm

I found an "umbrella gun" at Jauchem & Meeh Special Effects in Brooklyn, NY.  It is perfect.....a rifle that shoots a big umbrella.  Don't have the price yet but at least it is available.

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bullet Posted: 4/11/06 at 7:58am
We recently repaired an umbrella gun for our production that closed a couple months ago, I have a good description I made of each part, and a very good understanding of how to make it.  The only parts that need to be custom ordered are the springs, and maybe the umbrella.  It will be a lot cheaper to build than to rent/buy, unless you get a deal to repair one like we did.
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bullet Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:23am
Thanks for getting back to me.  The show wrapped about ten days ago.  It was reasonably successful given the subject matter.  We eventually bought a toy gun that said "Bang" and a toy rifle and with some cutting and gluing put the two together.  It worked...not great but enough to pass.  Only one of the actors was pouting about it.  We did find a company in New York city that rents a real Umbrella Gun but they wanted a huge deposit that none of us were willing to gamble (even the sulking actor).  I would still like to hear your description of how to make one, Tjelvar, in case we ever have to do this ( dreadful, depressing, repulsive) play again.
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