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    Posted: 9/23/05 at 10:58pm
I know many actors feel slighted if they aren't given the "right" curtain call treatment but I felt just the opposite in a recent production of "The Women."  I played Mary and the director had me take a final solo bow after everyone else had posed and bowed in tableaus....18 other actresses! By the time I came out, the audience was exhausted from clapping, I felt like a fool sweeping out in grand CS position and I suspected the rest of the cast resented my "star turn."  I didn't say anything because we got this elaborate curtain call staging right before the preview performance but would it have been kosher to tell the director it made me uncomfortable? ( he left the next day). Are curtain calls in a  different category or do actors follow directions here too?
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bullet Posted: 9/24/05 at 11:25am
Follow directions!!!  If you have an issue, discuss it with the Stage Manager if the director has left.
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bullet Posted: 9/24/05 at 11:47pm

I agree with dougb.

On the larger note of feeling slighted about not being given the right curtain call treatment, I've never taken too much offense at being given too early a curtain call.  I do mind a little when I have a large-ish role and I'm lumped together with too many other people.  Obviously, that's understandable with a large cast.  But, as an example, I was in a production of Little Shop where Mushnik, Orin, and Audrey II all came forward and bowed together.  Seemed a bit unnecessary.

But, in the scheme of things to worry about in a play, getting upset about curtain call's a small matter.

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bullet Posted: 9/25/05 at 12:27pm
 I hardly ever worry about the feelings of the performers position, in the pecking order!
What is more important is the mise en scene  & that of the production.
Even with the programme cast list, I have them in order of appearance & alphabetically in the role names, if there is more than one that first appears at the same time.
On posters or programme covers  I won?t have the Director or single out any ones name to be put on, except for the name of the Author & Rights courtesies.
Having said that there is a poster on our website, which I didn?t authorise, from our first show which has names

      Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}

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bullet Posted: 9/26/05 at 11:25am

Yes, you follow directions.  The call is part of the show.

That said:  I HATE curtain calls, as an actor.  "Pour your impersonal love out upon me, oh strangers in the dark."  What I really want to say to them is:

If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended:
That you have but slumbered here,
While these visions did appear;
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend.
If you pardon, we will mend.

I guess curtain calls are necessary; the audience wants to say "Good job" somehow.  Anyway, it's better than going out into the lobby IN COSTUME and getting your accolades that way.  Ugh.

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bullet Posted: 9/26/05 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by POB14

Anyway, it's better than going out into the
lobby IN COSTUME and getting your accolades that way.? Ugh.



ugh is right.

I HATE it when community theatres and/or high schools do that.
It's sooooooooo tacky and 'pleading for compliments.'
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bullet Posted: 9/26/05 at 5:03pm
I must say I hate the whole reception line after the show thing...however I know many actors that want that kind of Love after the show. Thank goodness us techies don't have to worry about that! I have worked at a theatre that had the tech crew come out for a bow as well. Must say I didn't like that either. As a techie I am a creature of darkness if the people in the house see me I haven't done my job right. If I wanted to be seen I would be an actor.
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bullet Posted: 9/27/05 at 12:52am
I guess I slightly disagree with the previous comments on having the actors in the lobby after the show. For me personally, I could do without it. However, there are other dynamics involved at the community/high school theatre level.
 
   A sizeable fraction of the audience is there to see person X in a show, and may not have come to the show otherwise. Likewise, there is typically a fraction of your actors that are very new to theatre, and actually making the long road from audition to curtain call is a big accomplishment for them. Sometimes it is _the_ accomplishment, a checkmark on their life list of things they've always wanted to do. It's a good thing to stand out there with them, and let them receive their personal accolades from family and friends, while they're still "in the moment". Yes, you get to stand around for a few awkward minutes, sweating in a musty costume, and hear X's aunt tell you, "Oh! Um, you were good too! You were all good! This was really neat!" I just consider it part of supporting other members of the cast.
 
   As far as curtain calls; I think they are necessary, but should be short and sweet. There's a couple of standard formats, use one, and be quick about it. An actor who feels slighted about not getting his/her "bowing time," or feels that someone else got more, doesn't quite get it. The actor who is receiving applause is receiving it on behalf of everyone who made them look good. They looked good only partly because of their own talent. The rest was the interaction of everyone he/she was on stage with, the costumes, the makeup, the lighting & FX, even the fact that the SM shoved them on stage at the right time. An audience applauds these things, even if they don't realize that they're doing so.
 
   I agree with Shatcher's comment about having the tech crew take a bow. That's about as pointless as parading the props on stage for the audience to applaud for. I've never gone to watch a show because of the furniture pushers. The best compliment an audience can give to tech is to forget that they were even there. If the backstage crew has helped to make the audience suspend their disbelief for a few brief hours, they have done a marvelous thing. That applause that they hear during curtain call is part of something that they have done. That final approval of a show is the pride of a show well done that everyone offstage takes home with them that night.

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bullet Posted: 9/28/05 at 3:52pm

The curtain call is to thank the audience - I've seen shows where they don't do one and I think that's so rude.

But yes - follow directions - it's still part of the show

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bullet Posted: 9/28/05 at 4:07pm

Ahhhh Curtain Calls.

I was always taught by my acting coach to behave myself during curtain calls. He was always very clear on how to bow, and be appreciative of the audience.

I was in a show once in which the whole cast danced around and acted like fools during the curtain call, much to the delight of the director. If you can't beat them join them I guess. But its the director's call.

Personally, I like to keep my curtain calls short, sweet and polite to the audience.

I don't have a problem with community theatres doing receiving lines, although it is very awkward if the show really stinks. I just tell everyone congratulations. A lot of theatres I've been to recently have small cast meet & greets afterwards. Not really a receiving line, but the cast can come gather in the lobby or receiving area in or out of costume and chat with patrons. Its much less formal than a line of people to walk past when you are on your way out.

 

 

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