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Category: Producing Theater
Forum Name: Set Design and Construction
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Topic: stars
Posted By: pykirk
Subject: stars
Date Posted: 7/24/14 at 8:35pm
For a '60's psychedelic version of "As you like it" I want to hang stars that vary in size from 3" to 16". They are cut from wood and painted and hung upstage. They do not light up. They should all be at the same distance downstage from the cyclorama, and they are hung at different heights. I do not want them to spin on single strands of monolfilament. I foresee that this could be a nightmare of fishing line. I could use a scrim, but I don't know if that would help. I mean, I'm sure it's not a good idea to pin objects to a scrim. I'll bet somebody's done something like this. Maybe they purchased, or made, a net with holes about 4" by 4". Or something like that. I don't want to do this by trial and error, so if someone has done it before, please let me know how.

Thanks,

Tom



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Posted By: bmiller025
Date Posted: 7/27/14 at 11:46pm
I have pinned styrofoam stars to a black scrim. Worked great, and I was able to light them distinctly from the cyc behind them. . I wouldn't want to risk damaging the scrim with anything heavier than that. I think to keep them stationary, you will need at least two monofilament lines attached to each star, maybe more if you go that route. They still are likely to sway in breezes though. There might be fine woven mesh fabrics available that are less costly than scrim, that would support the weight of the stars that you may want to look into. I am not familier with 4x4 net like that. I would expect that the fibers would need to be thick enough that they would be visible, thus ruining the illusion you are trying to create.

Good luck!

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Posted By: pykirk
Date Posted: 7/29/14 at 12:34am
Brian,

I could pin the styrofoam stars to the cyc. Any thoughts on that? The cyc is up for replacement anyway, so the stars would hide a multitude of sins (and rips). I think our lighting guys would light the stars all right.


Posted By: bmiller025
Date Posted: 7/29/14 at 12:03pm
The big challenge with that is that you can't light the stars separately from the cyc, and that will reduce the magic a bit. If the cyc is lit, for example, dark blue, and the stars are lit with white, or any other color at an extreme angle that doesn't spill onto the cyc, you would maximize its effectiveness. That is the benefit of the translucency of a scrim. It is certainly cheaper to do it the way you suggest though!

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Posted By: pykirk
Date Posted: 7/30/14 at 2:06pm
I see what you're saying. So, I have a black scrim. If I pin the stars to the scrim, and stabilize the scrim, then why would I need the monofilament? I don't doubt what you say, but please explain for my curiosity. Thanks, Tom


Posted By: bmiller025
Date Posted: 8/01/14 at 3:11pm
Sorry for my poorly written response! If you attach the stars to the scrim, you don't need the monofilament. I think I was trying to answer two separate questions at the same time. I think scrim is the better way to go!

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Posted By: pykirk
Date Posted: 8/03/14 at 2:36am
Thanks Brian. Not much action on this forum, but you came through for my question. I'll remember to come back here the next time I have a question.

Tom


Posted By: Spectrum
Date Posted: 8/28/14 at 11:06pm
Everybody went with the notion that you should make the stars out of Styrofoam and pin them to a scrim, buy if you want to get them away from a scrim and make them out of wood (as you originally intended) why not hang them with TWO pieces of monofilament or black line (one on each side of the star)? Hanging a star with one line will allow it to twist and turn, but with one line on each opposing point it can't turn, and if the support lines are set a little wider than the star itself the star shouldn't move around or sway too easily.

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