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Making costumes look old and dirty, help please!

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Topic: Making costumes look old and dirty, help please!
Posted By: Costume Lady
Subject: Making costumes look old and dirty, help please!
Date Posted: 5/29/10 at 11:54pm
I'm designing costumes for Oliver, and as I'm researching photos on the web, I notice that the main difference between the big theatres and school productions is that the costumes for the orphans in the big theatres look worn out and dirty, while the costumes in the school productions look too new!  I want our costumes to look as authentic as possible, so any ideas for making costumes look old and dirty?  Thanks!  

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The Costume Lady
Kitsap Children's Musical Theatre: Providing a positive and fun musical theatre experience for kids ages 5-18.



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Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 5/30/10 at 7:14pm
Shove the urchins costumes in a wahing machine with a few tea bags or let them soak [steep] in a bucket of tea/coffee.




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Posted By: vickifrank
Date Posted: 5/30/10 at 7:34pm
After the tea, rub with charcoal  and sandpaper and rip strategically.

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Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 5/31/10 at 9:40pm
Unless you're in a small theatre, often tea staining and coffee staining won't read from a distance - they also tend to stain evenly, which just changes the color.

If you take screening (like from a screen door), and lightly spray paint over parts of the clothes in  various colors, it will give a dirty and stained look. You can also shred dark pieces of netting and apply it over portions of the costumes to give them a raggy look without actually ripping up the costumes.

The sandpaper idea above is really effective - but be careful - sanding fabrics - especially natural (cotton, linen, etc.) fabrics - will deteriorate them quickly, so do it lightly.

I would also suggest making your clothes for the urchins out of heavier fabrics (even though they'll hate it LOL) - tweeds, gabardines, etc. Lightweight fabrics will never give you the look you're going for, as thin, delicate fabrics were a luxury then, and the gang wouldn't have had anything like that.

Good luck!


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Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 6/01/10 at 1:41am
A lot of the workhouse had a uniform, with jacket coats, shirts & britches. Because the object was to supply industries with pauper labour, workers & apprentices, men even wore bowler or cloth hats. Other very young boys just  wore shifts/frocks of calico

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dickens_oliver_twist.gif - File:Dickens oliver twist.gif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}


Posted By: Topper
Date Posted: 6/01/10 at 4:45pm
I agree with tristanrobin. Judicious application of spray paint (black, grey or brown) will quickly dirty up most costumes. Pay special attention to the knees, elbows, cuffs and collars -- anywhere dirt would naturally accumulate.

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Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 6/01/10 at 8:26pm
What I can remember from when I did the show back in 1960, was the clothes & shirts wern't torn as such all though we were nicknamed 'ragamuffins' but they were an off white washed out gray colour. The britches were a faded black colour, I think they were dipped in a yelowy/brown dye & no shoes were worn except for a pair of slippers off stage.
Non of the urchin clothes were ever ironed.
As I wasn't in the cast long before being transported to Vandeamons land, late September '60, I can't remember a lot about about the costumes, having only had a few performances under my belt - so it's all a wee bit vague, except for the memory of that  gawd awful body makeup, which was ruddy freezing to put on. It was aplied on with a sponge while you were stripped down to just swim trunks, after being checked over by the Doctor & no matter what I did  it always ran down into my nether regions!Cry




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[western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}


Posted By: pdavis69
Date Posted: 6/01/10 at 8:30pm
Best thing I have found to give hems a realistic frayed look is a rotary drill with a wire wheel attachment.  This wears out the fabric quickly and does not leave shrp edges like cutting it with a blade.  This can be done at knees or hemms anywhere you need to strees the clothing.  Be careful when doing this.

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Patrick L. Davis
Fort Findlay Playhouse


Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 6/02/10 at 4:21pm
wow - pdavis69 - you're good. LOL I would be scared to death that I'd destroy everything if I took power tools to them LOL

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Posted By: gelcat
Date Posted: 6/03/10 at 10:17am
I like the standing belt sander for putting wear on clothes in a hurry- but I have to say I filed down my nails in a hurry.  Use only if you don't mind holes in your stuff too.. .
 
I also like to bleach out parts of clothing to indicate wear- bleach elbows and knees and butts, while you dirty hems and plackets.  I depends on your character's occupation as to where the wear should really be.


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Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 6/04/10 at 8:49pm
Here is a promo type  video of the new Cameron MacIntosh production at the Dury Lan theatre;-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSgM-G-wm5Q - YouTube - Oliver! The Musical
The urchins costumes only differ slightly from the orginal production I was in at the 'New theatre' London in 1960, by a slight yellowy colour change in the shirts, greenish dowdy jackets & britches more fawn in colour.
But as I remember nothing was torn, dity or distressed, except it looks like they are now ironed.
Also from the looks of things they have revamed the set, to the piont of it not looking like Sean Kenny's briliant orginal design. Possibly because of the cost of reproducing it these days - Well I suppose that's progress?


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[western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}


Posted By: MrBill
Date Posted: 6/07/10 at 2:10pm

One thing that really helps is to think about how and where a costume gets dirty and worn. I've used the sandpaper method as well as a cheese grater (the small holes) on hems and cuffs where there is typically more wear.  I've also load up spray bottles with a concentrated RIT dye mixture and hit the appropriate areas with color. Yellow for sweat around necklines and armpits, brown for dirt at knees and elbows, black or gray for general grunge, green for grass stains.  Once when renting some solider costumes in college we couldn't use any permanent methods so I was sent out to a big pile of dirt from some excavation work to simulate dirt with . . . . dirt.



Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 6/14/10 at 4:37pm
JoeMc - from that clip it looks like the urchins are pretty ragged...though the workhouse orphans have on some sort of "uniform" and seem clean (frankly, LOL, too clean to be effective IMO).

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Posted By: evdooley
Date Posted: 11/11/10 at 10:14am
We did Les Miserables last year.  We bought the largest underbed storage plastic bin - the long rectangular ones.  Our miserables stood in the bin and we shook cocoa powder all over them.  Also smeared same on faces.  Looked great, washable and smelled good too!

This was in response to buying two very small things of powder in a shaker for 9.99 each - that didn't last long esp for a huge cast.

We also bought a large set of chalk (not oil) pastels in brown/grey/black colors and used these to dirty up the stuff.




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