The FULL Monty?
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Topic: The FULL Monty?
Posted By: DramaGal
Subject: The FULL Monty?
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 1:27pm
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Has anyone out there produced The Full Monty the Musical and avoided the final nude reveal? If so, how did you do it?
thanks- ------------- DramaGal |
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Posted By: Topper
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:14pm
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In a very clever production, the men were wearing flesh-colored athletic supporters or dance belts under their trousers. Of course, all naughty bits were kept covered as part of the choreography (hidden beneath shirt-tails, hats, each other, etc.)
At the final "reveal," extraordinary bright lights lit from upstage (directly BEHIND the dancers), practically blinding the audience and casting the entire front of the men in opaque shadow. As soon as the men covered themselves again, the lights returned to normal. Nothing was shown; everything was implied. The audience got the joke and didn't feel cheated or exploited. (NOTE: if you go this route, make sure you schedule ample time for tech. Flipping the wrong switch, or missing a cue at this point would be most unfortunate.) ------------- "None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone |
Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:47am
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as suggested by topper the final 'flash' scene, I have witnessed. Has been done with a lighting 'Blinder' set. I was trying to find a site with of the proeatre show, but I have not as yet?The blinder was a full stage width set piece, of large cut out neon lit 'full monty' letters. Incandecent para floods were set with in the lettering.
Than the lights were flashed upstage of the performers, on the cue. This left the 'flashers' in black relief - then a'Blackout'!
It would not be that difficult to produce something similar, for the final 'flash'number.
For the 'neon' letter surounds use the;-
EL Flatlite:- http://www.beingseen.com/index.html - http://www.beingseen.com/index.html Then either Parcans, Birdies [one under par] or the cheap outdoor 500watt parafloods & fittings. It would be easy enough to mount these on boards or set Fly piece.
But the simplest would be just focus some small fresnels on a fly batten & piont them at the punters.
Another group here in the bush did 'Ladies Night' which is the same genre The director had the actors do the full monty in full light - she toured the show with great sucess.
However there was a bit of alleged drama, starting with the auditions. Supposedly it was believed she fronted up with a tape, to see how the auditionees measured up? Also apparently billing the show as 'Ladies Night' doing the 'Full Monty' or words to that effect? Which is not a bad promotional ploy, wether it's true or not, it certainly got bums on seats.
FROM WIkIPEDIA;
New Zealand playwrights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_McCarten - Anthony McCarten and Stephen Sinclair filed a 180 million pound lawsuit against the producers of The Full Monty in 1998. They claim that the movie blatantly infringed on their play http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladies_Night_%28play%29&action=edit&redlink=1 - Ladies Night which toured both Britain and New Zealand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Full_Monty#cite_note-1 - [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Full_Monty#cite_note-2 - [3] Andrew McCarten and Stephen Sinclair created a website containing their play in response to statements from the producers of The Full Monty that claimed the two productions were not alike. The lawsuit was settled out of court, as part of this agreement the website containing http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladies_Night_%28play%29&action=edit&redlink=1 - Ladies Night was shut down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Full_Monty#cite_note-3 - [4] New Zealand playwrights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_McCarten - Anthony McCarten and Stephen Sinclair filed a 180 million pound lawsuit against the producers of The Full Monty in 1998. They claim that the movie blatantly infringed on their play http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladies_Night_%28play%29&action=edit&redlink=1 - Ladies Night which toured both Britain and New Zealand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Full_Monty#cite_note-1 - [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Full_Monty#cite_note-2 - [3] Andrew McCarten and Stephen Sinclair created a website containing their play in response to statements from the producers of The Full Monty that claimed the two productions were not alike. The lawsuit was settled out of court, as part of this agreement the website containing http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladies_Night_%28play%29&action=edit&redlink=1 - Ladies Night was shut down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Full_Monty#cite_note-3 - [4]
Also another tangent one of the suggestion of how the meaning the of ;- To get the 'Full Monty', came about;-
Was because of ;-
Meshe Osinsky [Sir montague burton]
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/jewish/working_lives/montague_burton1.htm - http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/jewish/working_lives/montague_burton1.htm
After deciding on changing his name to Burton, while awaiting for a train at the Burton On trent railway station. He married sophie Marks & partnered with Spenser to start up the Marks & Spencers Stores Empire.
He won a contract during WW2 to supply military uniforms & aftre the war. Providing all the returned Services persmenl with a Demob outfit of clothes.
I know my dad & uncles got a 'demob' suit after the war. Consisting of a 3 piece gents suit, shirt, tie, shoes, hat & a cardboard suit case to carry them in - but all my Aunts that fought in the armed services after returning, missed out?
 ------------- [western] Gondawandaland "Hear the light & see the sound! TOI TOI CHOOKAS {may you always play to a full house!} |
Posted By: biggertigger
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 8:55pm
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Great information Joe, here is a picture from a semi-professional production. I was not invovled with it, but it should give the op an idea of what the basic sign looks like behind the men dancing. This is the unlit version to give you an idea. http://academics.utep.edu/Portals/529/Season06-07/FullMonty-0607-14.jpg - http://academics.utep.edu/Portals/529/Season06-07/FullMonty-0607-14.jpg
Here is the broadway show from the tonys that show the last production number and how they actually use the lights to accomplish the "full monty".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A55WLYPoyc0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A55WLYPoyc0
Hope these help. ------------- The two greatest days in a theater persons life, the day you start a new show and the day the damn thing closes. |
Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 9:44pm
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Bewdy Biggertiger!
That's the effect & I like the cast 'plants' to work up the audiance participation.
I think someone forgot to shut dock doors, the way the slash curtain was moving about.
Fairly cheap 'slash drape' though using just poly strips, not a bad idea!
I have used a heap of old video tape attached to a header webbing, on a tab track, which gave black reflective slash's. But the clear poly plastic seams easier to do.
i remember back in the 60's using a strobe, borrowed from the local Uni, they used for 'Cloud farming - growing hail stones'.
when i did the lighting for 'alexander the great, fourty eight' strip shows.
Because her boobs were so big, she had false nipples stuck on, because the real ones were underneath. So when she did the final reveal flash.
Arcking up the strobe was a blinder so the punters could not see the real nipples that were visiable under neath. Which was a far better use for the strobe anyway!
 At that time I used the the same strobe for a show we were doing 'Instant Marriage', but there was no stripper in in it
 At that time it was a bit of a novelty in the use of strobe lihghting. So much so alexanda asked me wher she could buy a strobe to do all her shows. So I showed here the manufactures plate on the back of it, as she was a yank - it was made in USA.
------------- [western] Gondawandaland "Hear the light & see the sound! TOI TOI CHOOKAS {may you always play to a full house!} |
Posted By: spikesgirl
Date Posted: 3/30/08 at 11:13am
Gosh, it's the prospect of that final nude reveal that has our audience all worked up (we auditioning in a week for our show). The trick to it is to have a light board op that has a hair trigger finger. the guys don't have to be entirely nude as long as you can get those lights out before they rip their g strings off. You can always have a blast of lights behind them as well to temporarily blind the audience. For what it's worth, our director is insisting on 'the fully Monty' for our show and our actors are (supposedly) auditioning in their underwear. As an assistant director, I'm rather looking forward to it. Charlie (BTW - I'm a girl, so no jokes, please) |
Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 3/31/08 at 10:04am
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So no jokes about bare feet, cod pieces & audition briefs?
OK I won't!
------------- Joe Western Gondawandaland turn right @ Perth. Hear the light & see the sound. Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"} May you always play to a full house} |
Posted By: spikesgirl
Date Posted: 3/31/08 at 10:48am
Well, we will have to change that rule about no bare...feet...on stage. I'm not sure about cod pieces and audition briefs - guess the truth will come out in the *ahem* end.
The funniest part about it is that we don't audition for another week and we already have a full crew! There is actually a queue for the spot lights! I think we are going to have way too much fun with this show...
The costumer is talking about selling 'g' strings in the lobby as a way to increase our 'replace the sound system' drive.
Charlie
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Posted By: Topper
Date Posted: 3/31/08 at 7:03pm
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Okay, this is off topic, but I have to share:
During our production of "A Christmas Carol", the costume Jacob Marley wore was dressed with chains. These were sewn to the coat and -- separately -- to the pants. Of course, one night in performance the weight of the chains caused the buttons holding his suspenders to fall, and -- long story short -- Marley's trousers dropped to his ankles during one of his rants. Fortunately, the actor was wearing sufficient undergarments, but nevertheless for the rest of the run we referred to the show as "The Full Marley." ------------- "None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone |
Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 4/01/08 at 4:22am
Just get them to wear the g'd old 'Aussie Safety Boot' - THONGS;- http://smarterlife.com.au/?action=enlarge&id=954286 - http://smarterlife.com.au/?action=enlarge&id=954286
Which gives a whole new meaning to 'flip flops'  ------------- Joe Western Gondawandaland turn right @ Perth. Hear the light & see the sound. Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"} May you always play to a full house} |
Posted By: spikesgirl
Date Posted: 4/01/08 at 11:35am
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Just get them to wear the g'd old 'Aussie Safety Boot' - THONGS;- http://smarterlife.com.au/?action=enlarge&id=954286 - http://smarterlife.com.au/?action=enlarge&id=954286
Which gives a whole new meaning to 'flip flops' [/QUOTE]
Not quite the sex tease I was hoping for! Our sound designer will wear nothing else (mmm, perhaps I should say, he wear nothing else on his feet but flip flops) and he make our poor TD crazy when he's running cable like that. I could just hear poor Mark if we announced the entire audtion were going to be in flip flops!
Charlie
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Posted By: jayzehr
Date Posted: 4/01/08 at 1:52pm
| We have enough trouble rounding up good male actors as it is without asking them to audition in their underwear. |
Posted By: spikesgirl
Date Posted: 4/02/08 at 10:34am
Strangely enough, that hasn't been a problem for us. We haven't had this kind of interest in a long time! We are lucky that we're about the only real game in town for theater (we have between 150 and 200 on the books actors/actresses). Our other big theater is a road house which doesn't produce anything and the two schools only use program students.
I'll send some your way if you'd like - there's a few I wouldn't mind sending off!
Charlie
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