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Topic: 1st time director needs advice
Posted By: mrslifeofreilly
Subject: 1st time director needs advice
Date Posted: 9/15/06 at 1:51pm
I'm directing the Importance of Being Earnest.  We are holding auditions this Monday and Tuesday (Sept.18 & 19)...and then I have 4 weeks before we open on Oct. 24th.  It is tough enough, I think, to take on directing for the first time, but 4 weeks seems so short to me! 

When is it feasible to ask the actor's to be off-book?  When should I finish blocking by?  Any other advice?  Thank you!



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Posted By: Topper
Date Posted: 9/15/06 at 2:14pm

First of all, congratulations on your first directing gig!  All I can say is: Get yourself a seasoned stage manager.  They are worth their weight in gold and will be able to help you over the many hurdles to come.

As for your scheduling questions, much is dependent on your actor's schedules as well as your own personal preferences.

Four weeks is fairly typical for a straight play (non-musical) and it CAN be done!

Whenever I direct, I prefer to get the rough blocking done right away, usually after three or four rehearsals.  This gives you about a week-and-a-half to rehearse scenes, beats and business individually, refining the blocking as you go.

By the end of this process, (end of 2nd week) I  prefer my actors to be off-book.  (Some actors choose to do it ahead of time, but I don't require it.)  Unless it's a scene that requires a great deal of physical business -- a fight, a dance, the handling of many props, etc -- then I prefer them off book sooner for that specific scene.  This gives us then our entire third week to rehearse scenes off book.  (Of course, this happens only in a perfect world.  Actors are typically still calling for lines well into Week 3).

This Week 2/Week 3 is fairly flexible, but as we approach Week 4 we begin to incorporate costumes, ACTUAL props (instead of rehearsal ones) and before you know it, we're into Tech Week (Week 4) where we're dealing with lights, costume changes, set changes, etc. while trying to run the play from top to bottom without stopping.  (Actors DEFINITELY must be off book and forbidden to call for lines by this point).

The trick is to tell your actors you want them to be off-book by a certain date (and make that a date earlier than you really expect).  Actors love to have goals to shoot for and it gives you one less thing to worry about.

Best of luck to you!



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Posted By: castMe
Date Posted: 9/15/06 at 5:45pm
FOUR weeks?  Zowee, are you rehearsing five nights a week?  We typically have eight weeks of rehearsal including tech week and rehearse twice a week except for the first week when I add a rehearsal so I can block the show in three rehearsals and we can get into the meat of the play.  I always rough block before we get into the space so I can work out the more delicate moves without taking up valuable rehearsal time. I like to have the cast off book after four weeks so the last three (before tech when I'm otherwise occupied) we can concentrate on acting.  For some reason, its practically impossible to act with a script in your hand. 

I did want to echo Topper's suggestion re: stage manager.  Find a good one.  When you get a chance, find yourself a copy of Stage Management by Lawrence Stern.  This is a college level book and is great.  I have trained five or six stage managers with this book and have found it to be invaluable. I often get people who have expressed a desire to learn directing and offer to train them as SM's.  That way, I tell them, when you do direct, you'll be able to train anyone to SM the way you want them to. 



I have made the mistake in the past of not giving an "off-book" date and the actors take advantage by being lazy with their scripts.  Topper is right....make the date earlier than you think possible and push them (gently, gently) to meet it.


Good luck with your show and keep us up to date.  There are many bunburryists that visit here.


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Posted By: eveharrington
Date Posted: 9/16/06 at 2:21am
Four weeks seems short, the groups I have worked with have always done about eight weeks from auditions to opening night. I agree w/ Topper that you should give them an early off-book date, then just let them call for lines for a day or two (enter stage manager). Just remember to hold firm once you've told them they can't call anymore. It's amazing what a minute or so of blank panic with no help forthcoming from the seats, can do for a persons memorization skills.

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Posted By: Linda S
Date Posted: 9/16/06 at 9:57am

I also agree that 4 weeks is short, but like Topper says it can be done. I like to have 20-25 rehearsals, so if you can get your cast together every night and they work on their lines constantly, you'll be fine. There is a lot of language and a lot of playing with language, so it will intense. I agree with Topper, at the end of the second week they should be off book. They probably won't be totally off book until the middle of the next week, but don't tell them that. It will be a very full 4 weeks. Have fun with it.

Linda



Posted By: B-M-D
Date Posted: 9/16/06 at 2:44pm

Four weeks is doable but manic.    We do 7 - 8 weeks for our shows.  Part of our problem is depending on where in the season the show is we might only have four weeks to get a set built.   We're lucky enough to have our own space and have a rehearsal room at our disposal.  While one show is in production the other can be rehearsing.  The 2nd and 4th show of the season though always has a shorter build window which oddly enough hasn't stopped us from doing some of our more elaborate sets.

Good luck with your first directing foray!

 



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Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 9/16/06 at 10:04pm
I'm used to 7-8 weeks for a straight play (12 for a musical). However, we
don't rehearse every evening - and never on weekends until hell week. I like
to plan on about 25 rehearsals. I suppose if you rehearsed every evening for
a month, it would be the same thing (though I don't when they'd be able to
work on lines if they're in the theatre every night). Personally, in my area, I
could never get amateurs to pledge every night for a month.


Posted By: mrslifeofreilly
Date Posted: 9/17/06 at 10:51am
Thanks everyone for your replies!  There might be an opportunity for me to push opening back around 2 weeks, so I hope that works out.  Auditions start tomorrow night, and I've got my fingers crossed.  I'll be back to this forum with updates (and probably more questions).


Posted By: POB14
Date Posted: 9/18/06 at 10:03am

Originally posted by castMe

I have made the mistake in the past of not giving an "off-book" date and the actors take advantage by being lazy with their scripts.  Topper is right....make the date earlier than you think possible and push them (gently, gently) to meet it.

I agree with all this advice.  As an actor, I tend to put down the book just as soon as the director shoots it out of my hand.  I wouldn't call it laziness (of course, I wouldn't!), it's a security blanket.  I don't need it . . . not really . . .  but it's nice to know it's there.  Also, it is a little known fact that if a script is carried in the back pocket, the lines can actually penetrate directly into the butt and reach the actor's brain (not always a lengthy trip).    So you might let them CARRY scripts for a bit without LOOKING at them.

Good luck at auditions, and if you need a Reverend, I come cheap.



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Posted By: Shatcher
Date Posted: 9/18/06 at 3:54pm
4 weeks is ample time to put up a show. I did a summer of stock where we opened...7 shows in 6 weeks. and these were not small shows Noises off, Phantom, south Pacific, Arsnic and old lace, Not Now Darling, Nunsense and a childrens show. so I am sure you can get your show up. Somehow the show always opens on time...don't ask how it is the magic of theatre


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 9/19/06 at 6:19pm

4 weeks?!  Zounds!  Even rehearsing every night, I don't see how your actors will have time to get off book in two weeks if they are in rehearsal 5 nights a week.  Earnest has such a small cast, it's hard to call them in for rehearsal in segments.  About the only one with a little bit of freedom is Lady Bracknell, who is only one in Act I and the end of Act III. 

Whatever you do, get your read through done the first night (or skip it all together), and get your blocking done by the middle of the second week--no later. 

Even though this is CT and the members are here for bonding with one another as well as acting, you'll need to stress the importance of working on lines, blocking, and character development when they are in the rehearsal but not working with you for the moment.

As a director, you need to be entirely prepared for every rehearsal.  If you haven't pre-blocked your scenes, you want to get those done now in your book, so you only have to dictate the movements and walk through them in the actual rehearsals.

Lastly, start each and every rehearsal ON TIME--even if only 1 actor is there.  Make the other actors stay late to make-up what they missed.

Have a good show!  Earnest is one of my all-time favorite plays!



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Posted By: red diva
Date Posted: 9/26/06 at 1:35pm
Does sticking the script in your back pocket really work well, POB14?  I've always relied on the "osmosis through the stomach" technique that involves sticking the script into the front of my waistband.  Closer to the brain, I think.  (and easier to peek at when there's a break in the action)

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Posted By: Mike Polo
Date Posted: 9/26/06 at 1:49pm
I don't know about POB, but when I stick a script in my back pocket, it IS closer to the brain...

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Posted By: castMe
Date Posted: 9/26/06 at 8:54pm
I was doing Plaza Suite one night (opening night  maybe) when my co-star began to feel my butt.  HUH? I was totally nonplussed.  We where friends, but not that close and she'd never showed any interest in being closer.  Besides that, she was very professional and it seemed so out of character for her.

.......until I realized I had put my script under my waist band in the back after I finished refreshing my memory before my entrance.  Don't know why I didn't just set it down backstage!!?? She was trying to let me know that not only could it be seen by the three people who had, for some strange reason, decided to attend that night, but I'd place it so the title was clearly visable.  What a DOLT !!


......thus began the notion I should begin to direct rather act.  I now only need memorize the title of the show I'm directing.


.........and most of my shows have been three word titles or less.

just wanted to share that


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Posted By: Shatcher
Date Posted: 9/27/06 at 10:02am
See Castme this is why I am a SM I get to have my book all the time.


Posted By: Stageman
Date Posted: 4/27/07 at 2:43pm
Hi.  I actually wrote a manual on directing community theater that you may find very useful.   A friend of mine was going to help me get it published, but then he unfortunately had a stroke, and I just put it on the back burner.  At this point, I've given up on making any money on it but would just love to have someone be able to use it - and I wouldn't mind getting some feedback on whether you found it useful or not.  Please feel free to email me at mailto:raydenicsas@yahoo.com - raydenicsas@yahoo.com if you're interested.


Posted By: avcastner
Date Posted: 5/20/07 at 12:11pm
FYI:  I'm the "guest" above-- my username didn't transfer when the forum updated.
 
I just finished directing Earnest for my second time in 2 years (the kids asked me to do it, so I said yes)
 
I gave them their books on March 30, and they performed May 17 and 18.  They had to be off book before the first rehearsal on April 16 (we had Spring Break, Senior Trip, and a Youth Conference in between auditions and April 16).  We basically rehearsed 3 days a week for 2 hours a day for 4 weeks.  It was possible, but only because the kids were pretty much off book on April 16. 
 
Our schedule was (1 day per act) 
 
Week 1--blocking
Week 2---working
Week 3--act runs
Weeks 4 & 5--tech/dress/performance
 
It was a success because my students were such hard workers, but I wouldn't suggest such a short rehearsal schedule again.
 


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