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Topic: rude audiences?
Posted By: Tallsor
Subject: rude audiences?
Date Posted: 10/06/05 at 10:06am

Is it just in the plays I'm participating/attending in Kansas City, or is it all over - that audiences are just getting ruder and ruder?

I'm talking about not only not showing up until 5 or 10 minutes late, but Park University Theatre (my alma mater, that I help out with from time to time) had a 'world-premiere' play, written by one of the students, last spring in the black box theatre. The Black Box is set up to where once the door is closed, it is CLOSED. There is NO way to seat people after the show starts without interupting EVERYTHING. On top of that, we had a sold-out show all three nights of performance - usually by 15 minutes before the show started. I not only had the 5 or 6 people those 5 or 10 minutes after, but actually had someone show up 30 minutes after the show started, expecting to be 'guaranteed' a seat. (No wonder movie theatres don't start when they say the show starts - not only for advertisements, but because people don't come in until after it's started .)

Then, we've got cell phones and pagers. Park has a notice in the program. The house manager says something as the people walk in. They've even taken to having a short announcement right before the show starts. And STILL we have people who seem to think it's okay to not only have it on, but to have the entire conversation in the theatre!

Then, we've got the talking during the play. I'm not meaning the small little conversations figuring out what's going on, or discussing characters or whatnot. I'm talking about the full-blown commentary I get from people behind me (my 'favorite' story had to be when I went and saw a local production of Brigadoon: the ladies behind my group talked about everything from 'the guy wearing the skirt' to 'oooh, do you think he killed that guy?'). Or even worse, talking about stuff that's not related to the show. (Park is currently doing The Laramie Project, and there were a couple of times during one performance where I could hear people behind me talking and giggling - during one of the more dramatic scenes in the thing.)

So, is it just bad luck on my part, or is this becoming an epidemic?

Angie




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Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 10/06/05 at 12:15pm
wow - it sounds like you really are involved with the rudest
audiences ever. Frankly, our HIGH SCHOOL students act more
civilized in a theatre.

We don't have that problem here in New Haven. It's quite a
theatre-oriented city. We have Yale Rep, Longwharf Theatre,
the Shubert Theatre, and the Princess Theatre - all professional
theatres ... as well as 8-10 amateur companies. All in a small
city of 125,000. We're also only an hour from Manhattan, so
many people attend Broadway plays regularly. Consequently,
polite theatre audience behavior is fairly consistent.I can't
imagine dealing with what you are dealing with. That is the way
second graders behave during plays before they're taught
theatre manners.

I'm very interested in hearing if others have this issue!


Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 10/06/05 at 12:18pm
now that I think of it, I just saw the matinee yesterday of
Longwharf's "Midsummer Night's Dream" (the most
beautiful and accessible production I've ever seen - including
the Royal Shakespeare Company's production - but that's for
another thread).

In the audience there were THREE different high school field
trips...AND several groups of elderly people with hearing
issues LOL.

You could hear a pin drop in the theatre.

(If you're anywhere in CT, I highly recommend seeing this
production! It's glorious.)


Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 10/06/05 at 12:25pm
I agree with you whole heartedly & I wish I could suggest a way around it!
But it has been going on for a very long time, especially during the time when punters were invited to pay to sit on stage &  even become put of the production!
As a wee kid I remember being pelted with fruit {on a good night] to being showered in coins [which I enjoyed on a bad night] thrown by the punters. I?m sure old Shakey would have had to endure & also expected disruptions from the groundlings &/or others. So much so it became an integral part of the audience participation & form of enjoyment of live shows.
Admittedly it is annoying to sit near some galah who squawks a running commentary or leaves their phone or pager on. While it might be also disconcerting for the warm props to have noises at inappropriate times! Unfortunately this is what IT is all about!
Although I tend to think that it is getting to be less of a problem these days than it was, as the majority of punters comply by turning off their phones & whatever.
The thing that does get right up my nose, is the wally who takes a flash photo in a blackout or other parts of the performance. Then gets upset, when the front of house ask them to refrain or leave.
Unfortunately signs & announcements, only work as a reminder to the punters who respects others. While all the other wombats, will just do their own thing regardless!




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Posted By: Shatcher
Date Posted: 10/06/05 at 2:01pm
Don't know how to fix this problem but I have a funny story. When I was in college we were doing our new plays fest. there was a woman in the house with her baby, the baby did not make a sound but the mother didn't want to miss the start of the 2nd act so she laid the kid down in the ailse and started to change his diaper!. the cast entered that way, so the head of the department stoped the show, had the SM turn the house lights up and asked the rest of the house to please wait while this woman finished up. The woman had the gall to say someting to him about it after the show along the lines."How dare you embarass me like that"


Posted By: Linda S
Date Posted: 10/06/05 at 2:39pm

It is nice when the other audience members do the policing for you.  I was getting ready to go over to ask an audience member to put her cell phone away. I was house managing, and it was obvious that she was disturbing everyone. She was text messaging! That was new one. That lovely green glow could be seen all over the theater. She must not have been getting very good reception because it looked like a lighthouse beacon flashing around the room! The woman next to her finally asked her why she bothered buying a ticket to talk on the phone. I didn't have to say anything! The phone went away.

Linda

 

 



Posted By: Nyria
Date Posted: 10/07/05 at 2:03pm

Do you have ushers at the doors?  Don't let people in after the show starts - if you put a notice on your tickets and posters then they can't complain (well - they still will but at least you can have a back up).

Also - have your ushers tell people to be quiet and talk to them about cell phones etc.

 

 



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Posted By: POB14
Date Posted: 10/07/05 at 4:19pm

No help here, other than what others have said, but since we're swapping stories:

My dad, now long since deceased, used to like to go to the old standard musicals.  One time we went to see Gypsy.  If you know the beginning, Louise and June are onstage trying out for Uncle Somebody's show, and Rose enters from the back of the auditorium calling, "Sing out, Louise!"

So Dad is on the aisle, and when Rose enters (full makeup, costume, and a dog under her arm), he whirls around to her and yells, "Shaddup, goddammit, can't you see there's a show going on?"



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Old Bugger, Curmudgeon, and Antisocial B**tard


Posted By: falstaff29
Date Posted: 10/07/05 at 10:57pm

Yeah, rude audiences suck.  But, apparently, we're swapping stories, so here goes.

A few months ago, I was in a production of Nilo Cruz's A Bicycle Country.  Just a quick description of the scene, since most people don't know the play.  In the second act, the three characters are on a raft going to Florida from Cuba.  There's a sort-of, not-really love triangle thing going on, but one character has sorta let it go, although there's still some feeling for the girl.  So, this character's asleep and the other two decide to have sex.  It's a powerful scene because it's not romantic-comedy-style, ooh-let's-get-it-on sex.  It's embarrassing, confusing, etc.  Really mature sensibility here.  Quiet, powerful scene, right?

One night, this old lady in the front row, in a whisper so loud she might as well have been talking, says to her husband, "Are they gonna f--- now?"



Posted By: glinda90
Date Posted: 11/04/05 at 5:13pm

It isn't your fault.  I watched a few plays that had some of the rudest audiences.  You're not the only one irritated.  As an actor, it can be very uncomfortable acting in front of people who don't even pay attention. But it is even worse when you're an audience member and you are the one who wants to see the play.

Of course, the show must go on!



Posted By: casey05
Date Posted: 11/06/05 at 4:17am
Just finished up a run of Les Miz. One night we had a really rude audience member who yelled out during the end of the barricade scene, "Well, I hope that's the bloody end then, is it?" (or something to that effect). We also had a man having a conversation (several conversations, actually, all throughout the show) on his phone, bellowing out in the audience.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11/06/05 at 7:51pm

I just finished directing a melodrama for a middle school.  Generally our high school and middle school students are quite well-mannered--but after turning around three times and instructing a row of high schoolers to be quiet, I had to threaten them to be quiet or I would remove them from the auditorium.  (as a teacher and a director, I have that authority)

A few years ago, I took one of my classes to see Shakespeare's Pericles at a local rep company.  Our group was split, so I was sitting apart from a few of the students, but my other chaperons were right above them (and did nothing).  Right after the play, there was a discussion group that the actors were going to hold with the school students.  The actor who played Pericles actually started off by discussing theatre etiquette, because some of my students had decided to "take a nap," "chat," "lounge," etc. in the front row.  Nothing got their attention better.

As for the cell-phone issue, we've created a special "performance" any time a cell phone goes off in the audience.  We stop the play, play some march music, have a few designated actors run out on stage, ask for the phone, talk to the caller and tell him he's interrupting a play, and put a cheap, ugly, decorated hat on the offender's head.  Then we hand back the phone, with the phone turned off.  (This is, of course, after we have written the standard note in the program, made at least one annoucement before the show begins, etc.) 

Are audiences rude?  Yes!  What can we do?  Educate them!  Will they listen/learn?  Probably not. 



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Posted By: Stephen
Date Posted: 3/20/06 at 1:01am
Originally posted by avcastner

As for the cell-phone issue, we've created a special "performance" any time a cell phone goes off in the audience.  We stop the play, play some march music, have a few designated actors run out on stage, ask for the phone, talk to the caller and tell him he's interrupting a play, and put a cheap, ugly, decorated hat on the offender's head.  Then we hand back the phone, with the phone turned off.  (This is, of course, after we have written the standard note in the program, made at least one annoucement before the show begins, etc.) 

Are audiences rude?  Yes!  What can we do?  Educate them!  Will they listen/learn?  Probably not. 

 

That is fantastic!



Posted By: centerstage
Date Posted: 4/01/06 at 9:37pm

I just finished up the show Nunsense, I played Sister Mary Leo and the audience last night was one of the rudest that I have ever had.  This one person was eating chips of some sort (a no-no of course) and they kept crinkling the bag.  And of course the cell phones with the really annoying rings not the good old fashioned "ring ring" but the latin music and the rap songs.  Also, this one woman kept singing along, which is fine, but she was louder than we were!



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