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Quote Scott B Replybullet Topic: Websites, Scripts and Copyright
    Posted: 12/16/10 at 1:27am
I was wondering what the copyright laws were regarding the postings of select readings from scripts.

For instance ... an audition is coming up for your show and you know what selection you want people reading for the various parts. 

Can you post a page of dialogue on your website with the character's names so they can either read it, download it or print it out?

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Quote jayzehr Replybullet Posted: 12/16/10 at 9:33am
I'd check with the company you're paying the royalties to.  Samuel French, Dramatists, etc.
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Quote SeanReidLaw Replybullet Posted: 1/27/11 at 11:14pm
It's possible that this practice could fall under fair use, however there are alot of questions that need to be answered first. If you don't wish to contact every performance licenser for every show, you could work with an attorney to develop general policies about the posting and distribution of sides for your theater company.

To give you an idea, variables could include:
- How much of the total script will be posted.
- How long the sides will be available
- Whether the theater company is a nonprofit (presumably it is.)
- How sides are presented. (Have they been edited?)

Often the first response to a suggestion such as this is that lawyers are just too expensive. They don't have to be. There are plenty of attorneys and nonprofit legal organizations out there that work in the arts and provide these services either at an affordable rate, or even pro bono.

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Quote NDTENOR Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 1:54am
I'm not saying that I know the specifics of the law but I have had call-back to a few smaller professional theaters where I was supplied some "sides" of music and readings over the internet in e-mail from the show. My feeling is that it seems unlikely that these theaters would risk putting themselves at odds with licensing companies unless they could legally do it. And these theaters undeniably had already obtained production rights for the show . But again, I don't know the specific details of copyright laws. But only that I know some theaters that do it.   
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Quote David McCall Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 11:28am

There is an old saying "It is easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission". Words to live by? Some people do. Technically there is very little you are allowed to do with a script beyond performing the show as written and only for the audience you licensed it for. This applies to audio or video recording, duplication of any kind, etc., etc..

 

This should not be construed as legal advice in any way. However, I personally have never heard about anybody getting into trouble for such activities. Although there is not much legal difference between keeping an archive in the theater compared to selling DVDs in the lobby or online, in practice, you may have a very hard time finding anyone that has been shut down for keeping an archive. Providing the odd page for auditions most likely won't draw much attention unless an actor is pissed about not getting a part they wanted and turns you in.

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Quote Rorgg Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 11:54am
You don't list where you are, and this kind of issue varies from country to country.

BUT, if you're in the U.S., you should be clear on this under the terms of Fair Use, as listed above, as long as the distribution is limited (mail your auditioners a URL that's not linked to publicly), confined to a reasonably small amount of the script, and you've secured performance rights and own a copy legally.

IANAL, but even copyright lawyers will tell you that Fair Use is a very grey field.  Fortunately, intent is usually a large part of any decision, as is profit.  I'd say if it came to a head, odds would be strongly on your side, but chances are that it'd never get that fair -- because:

1. The publisher would probably never know;
2. If they did, they probably wouldn't care;
3. If they did, they'd have to win; and
4. If they did, the damages would probably be so small as to make their action not worthwhile.
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Quote David McCall Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 12:10pm
Most of the copyright issues I’ve heard of have resulted in a “cease and desist” order. In other words; if you don’t stop right now we are coming after you.
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Quote SeanReidLaw Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 12:12pm
It occurred to me that in my last post I failed to provide any explanation of the fair use doctrine in copyright law. (I realize many may know this, but many also don't, so if you do I apologize.) Basically, fair use allows people to use copyright protected material without needing to obtain permission from the copyright holder. Whether a use constitutes fair use is evaluated on a case by case basis based upon several factors. http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

The fact that other theaters do this certainly works in the favor of fair use, however, it comes down to a totality of the circumstances. Including those factors I mentioned above. It's also worth mentioning that in the case of the theater company I am directing for, use of script portions for auditions is a standard part of their contract with the playwright. (They do new works so they have the luxury of using their own contracts.)

David raises an important point. It is certainly an evaluation for your theater company to make as to whether they risk being sued.

David, I do have to step in regarding your second point though. This is not to start a fight , but because it might also help shed some light on what kind of lines exist in this area.

As far as copyright law is concerned there is a HUGE difference in copyright law between making an archival copy and selling copies in the lobby. If the rights do not include permission to make an archival copy, a case can generally be made that an archival copy falls under fair use. (As always the specific circumstances may effect this) The difference here is that with the copies in the lobby:
A. You are making several copies and distributing them to the public which is a right reserved to the copyright holder. With an archive copy you are making one one copy, and your not going to be broadcasting it to many audiences. (Come to think of it, in all the years I've done theater I don't think I have actually ever seen any of the archived copies of shows I've been in. Or the pictures from photocall come to think of it)
B. You are selling these copies (presumably for a profit) also a right reserved to the copyright holder. Obviously with the archival copy you are not selling the work

It is extremely unlikely that these two differences will still protect you under fair use.
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Quote Spectrum Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 1:49pm
"B. You are selling these copies (presumably for a profit) also a right reserved to the copyright holder. Obviously with the archival copy you are not selling the work."

I'm not sure the profit motive has any influence on it at all.  If you were giving copies away for FREE, it is still a violation of the copyright law, UNLESS the royalties or 'license fee' is paid for every copy distributed.

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Quote SeanReidLaw Replybullet Posted: 1/28/11 at 2:15pm
In some ways you are correct. It's very possible that even giving copies away in the lobby for free will be enough to not meet the fair use requirements.

I mentioned the profit aspect because the first prong of the fair use analysis specifically looks at whether the use is commercial in nature. Courts generally view this as whether a profit is being made. Although there are some exceptions, in general if a profit is being made, that is a nail in the coffin for any fair use claim.
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