Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Play Suggestions
 Community Theater Green Room Discussion Board :Producing Theater :Play Suggestions
Message Icon Topic: Babes in Toyland(Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post Reply Post New Topic
<< Prev Page  of 4 Next >>
Author Message
jayzehr
Celebrity
Celebrity


Joined: 8/11/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 537
bullet Posted: 4/17/08 at 6:55pm
Well, Landon seems to have had a busy couple of days. According to this new wikipedia article since Tuesday he has apparently located the original score to Babes in Toyland, extensively rewritten the book and come up with some new original songs to boot. Another amazing community theater success story!
IP IP Logged
landon2006
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 3/10/08
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 55
bullet Posted: 4/17/08 at 7:26pm
Shocked actually it says "is being rewritten by...". I have found several of the original (or reprints of the original) score and vocal book and I am currently making re-writting a new script based someone what on what I know of the original story and some of the Loral & Hardy film (which is public domain). One of the board members was able to get a local Composer on the project as well.

However we are moving Babes to 2010, and in place of it we decided at the board meeting today that we are going to go through with A Little Princess on a statewide tour in late 2008 into 2009. The primary advantage to this is that #1 it can be done much cheaper than Babes, #2 it will allows us to build up relationships with some smaller Theaters (under 1,500 seats) in the state, as well as get us some much needed money to get on tour with Babes in 2010.

We also decided that we are doing our tours from a base location, so as not to need everything up front. Today, I also have secured some dates at Theaters here in Indiana, and I'm still in talks with another 8 Theaters about available dates.

So yeah, I have been pretty busy Wink

PS) It appears as though my Wikipedia artical is a candidate for deletion for some reason... Wikipedia never much liked me for some reason.
IP IP Logged
jayzehr
Celebrity
Celebrity


Joined: 8/11/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 537
bullet Posted: 4/17/08 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by landon2006



Shocked actually it says "is being rewritten by...".   


No, it doesn't. It says "the book has been extensively rewritten by Landon D. Parks" or at least it did as of this afternoon. The article clearly describes the project as finished. By the way, where did you wind up finding the original score?
IP IP Logged
landon2006
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 3/10/08
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 55
bullet Posted: 4/18/08 at 9:47am
Oppps, I ment to write "is being" not "has been". Lesson why you should alway proof read something before you send it!

Anyway, I found Toyland, March of the Toy Solders,  Don't Cry, Bo-Peep, I Can't Do the Sum & Go to Sleep, Slumber Deep at the IU school of music library. Jason, one of our Board members has a friend who works in the Library of congress, and he is doing a check there for us to see what he can dig up.
IP IP Logged
landon2006
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 3/10/08
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 55
bullet Posted: 4/18/08 at 12:03pm
"because you're making stuff up"
Stern%20Smile Them's fightin words Jayzehr. There is no reason to make that up... If that was not in fact the truth, then I would not waste my  time to create such an artical for no reason at all? I'm not stupid you know! Ermm

PS) Aren't we getting a little off the original topic here? Clearly this conversation will not get anyone anywhere, so lets end it here.
IP IP Logged
jayzehr
Celebrity
Celebrity


Joined: 8/11/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 537
bullet Posted: 4/18/08 at 1:06pm
Your Myspace page says that "We produce and manage United States national tour's of famous Broadway musicals as well as new musicals and revues. Many of our productions are toured to cities all over America"

Is that true?

You also claim on that website to make 250,000 dollars a year doing this.

Is that true?

Your previous Wikipedia article claimed you had once directed Babes in Toyland. You've admitted here that this isn't true.

Your current Wikipedia article in its entirety reads: "Babes in Toyland: The New Musical is a brand new musical based on the original 1903 Babes in Toyland operetta. While this version keeps much of the story of the original, the book has been extensively rewritten by Landon D. Parks, to add more into the story. The new version resembles more of a modern Broadway musical than the original operetta while still keeping much of charm of the original.
The new musical also contains brand new songs, to complement the remaining original Victor Herbert score. It also features several songs from the famed 1902 stage play version of The Wizard of Oz (1902 stage play) written by L. Frank Baum and various other composers."

You've admitted here that this new musical does not exist yet, so this article cannot be true.

You've also been banned from at least one movie production website for repeatedly telling lies about feature films you supposedly made.

So, yes, you are making stuff up.



IP IP Logged
landon2006
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 3/10/08
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 55
bullet Posted: 4/18/08 at 6:59pm
Normally, I would not argue and just drop the subject, but your touching in some sensitive areas.

#1: YES, that is the goal of the company to produce nationwide tours. Nowhere have I or any other members of the company stated that we "HAVE" produced such shows (that I am aware of anyway), just that its the goal of company to do so, and currently we have a national tour planned and in pre-production for 2009 (A Little Princess). So YES, we do produce national tours as is evident.

#2: It's not "my myspace". I don't update it, thats up to John who is our Webmaster (who also maintains the website). I ocasionally might ad news or bulletins to the myspace, but I am not responsible for its creation and/or maintaining.

#3: As to the Film thing... I got banned from Indietalk  like 8 years ago because I  got a little carried away with myself. I would NEVER say I lied about anything there, I did post some stuff that may have been a little bit "ahead" of it actually happening, but again, I was probably 13 or 14 at the time and not very mature on the facts. NOT that this pertains to anything to do with here, and I really don't appreciate you bringing up something very old and very uncalled for at this time. On top of that, I did end up directed 3 films, one of which could be considered feature length (78 min long). None of them ever got any distribution, but that was not my goal.

#4: The Broadway Entertainment Company Inc. is a state registered Non-Profit company that is not only run by myself, but also a board of directors. It is not "my" company, and "I" alone do not make the decisions. The myspace page states our income at $250,000 per year because that is the highest that Myspace allows, and in fact our 2009 income (not profit) predictions are well over $800,000. Again though, I do not update the myspace page, and any concerns over that need to be handled by our Webmaster by e-mailing him at info@broadwaybloomington.org subject: Myspace Issue.

#5: I never stated (at least I never ment to state anyway) that I had completed the project of Babes in Toyland. If I did make that assumption, it was by mistake. Currently, I have gotten 8 pages of the script complete and I talked with the composer today (Andrew John-Walker) about some new songs in which we want for the production. I have also complied 3 songs from the Broadway play "Wizard of Oz (1903)" into the proposed score. We have moved the tour to 2010 instead of 2009, but I really don't see much use in updated the Wiki artical if it is going to get deleted...

So there is nothing in the Wiki artical that would be considered a lie. If you don't believe me, sorry. I am not going to release any scripts, scores, etc on Babes in Toyland until I have my copy of the script and any music score registered with the US Copyright office for protection.

#6: I don't recall any articals about me having directed "Babes in toyland" before. Please alert me to such an artical so that I can verify such information.

Any other issues you have?

PS) We are about to release a list of our 2009 tour Cities, so check the website if  "A Little Princess" will be coming near you. Keep in mind that as time draws closer, we will be adding more Theaters.


IP IP Logged
jayzehr
Celebrity
Celebrity


Joined: 8/11/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 537
bullet Posted: 4/19/08 at 3:24am
Originally posted by landon2006


Nowhere have I or any other members of the company stated that we "HAVE" produced such shows (that I am aware of anyway),

If you really believe that you have some serious language comprehension problems. You post on your site that "Many of our productions are toured to cities all over America" when in fact you have had no productions yet and nothing has been toured anywhere.

Originally posted by landon2006

#3: As to the Film thing... I got banned from Indietalk  like 8 years ago because I  got a little carried away with myself. I would NEVER say I lied about anything there, I did post some stuff that may have been a little bit "ahead" of it actually happening,

Your math skills are as poor as your reading and writing skills. You got banned from Indietalk no earlier than 2004. Some advice since that's why you supposedly are posting here: When you tell people that what you are imagining has actually already happened, i.e. when you get a "little bit ahead" of yourself, you are lying. And it really pisses people off.

Originally posted by landon2006

The myspace page states our income at $250,000 per year because that is the highest that Myspace allows, and in fact our 2009 income (not profit) predictions are well over $800,000.

Once again, Landon, 2009 HASN'T HAPPENED YET! You are stating what you are fantasizing will happen as present tense reality. It would certainly be considered a lie by any potential investors, donors, employees or theater managers foolish enough to enter into a contract with you based on this false statement.

Originally posted by landon2006

I do not update the myspace page, and any concerns over that need to be handled by our Webmaster.

Right. You're only the "executive director." Any problems with factual misrepresentations are somebody else's fault.

Originally posted by landon2006

I never stated (at least I never ment to state anyway) that I had completed the project of Babes in Toyland. If I did make that assumption, it was by mistake.

You made the assumption that you had completed the adaptation by mistake? Come again? Landon, re-read the wikipedia article you wrote. It describes in detail your version of the musical in the PRESENT TENSE when in reality IT DOES NOT EXIST YET. Do you not understand this distinction? How could you have done that "by mistake"?

Originally posted by landon2006

: I don't recall any articals about me having directed "Babes in toyland" before. Please alert me to such an artical so that I can verify such information.

Your deleted Wikipedia biography stated : "Landon D. Parks is a Musical Theater Director & Producer. He has Directed Musicals such as "Annie", "Les Miserables" and "Babes in Toyland." Wikipedia identified you as the author of that entry. Are you saying you did not post it?

Originally posted by landon2006

Any other issues you have?
Since you asked, could you tell me the name of the theater, the theater group and the dates of performances from when you directed Annie a year and a half ago?

You seem like an intelligent, imaginative kid. But it appears to me very likely that you are at least partially living in a fantasy world. We've all been there to some extent. I'm not sure how much of your own BS you actually believe so I guess one could argue you're not morally responsible. However, in retrospect it really bothers me that you've been posting here giving people advice about things that I now strongly suspect you have no real knowledge of.

IP IP Logged
JoeMc
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 3/13/06
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 832
bullet Posted: 4/19/08 at 6:21am
Thanks landon for initiating this interludeOuch  
This reminds me of an old Geordie song;-
 
C...................Am..................
Whisht! lad, haad yor gob
...............F..................G7...........
An' Aa'll tell ye 'n an aaful story,
C....................Am................
Whisht! lad, haad yor gob,
...............F.........G7........C.........
An' Aa'll tell ye 'boot the woorm.
 
"It's best to have a firm grasp of the Lily, before attempting to gilt it?"
 
there is an old theatre addage that comes to mind, which may be rather apt old chap?
"If you want to suceed in this game - Get an agent & stop handling yourself!"
_______________________________
 
Bewdy Jay!
Interesting illumination on this mise en scene!Wink 
 
[western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}
IP IP Logged
landon2006
Star
Star
Avatar

Joined: 3/10/08
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 55
bullet Posted: 4/19/08 at 11:42am
I'm not gong to argue with anyone here. I'm not going to answer any of your above questions because I'm sure it will only spark more argument.

Believe me or not... DROP IT! This forum has gotten WAY off subject, and it's also gotten into my personal life, which I don't think needs to be displayed freely on a message board anywhere. You can either believe me or not, I don't really care one way or the other. But arguing about it is not the way to solve any issues, and clearly all that this topic is going to lead to is more argument. So please just drop it.

Landon

PS)I am not living in fantasy world. As I said, I do not own the company and I don't solely make decisions. When I stared the not for profit company, I did it with the intentions of starting a community Theater. However, clearly this has changed, and the change was not brought on by me. If you think the company is living in a fantasy world, thats fine, maybe it is??? DON'T BRING MY PERSONAL LIFE INTO IT THOUGH!


IP IP Logged
<< Prev Page  of 4 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums version 8.05
Copyright ©2001-2006 Web Wiz Guide
buy generic cialis are in line cialis canada outcome for yourself viagra sales cost saving benefit viagra uk convert your buy phentermine online pay phentermine cod payment Lenders Everything xanax online your existing xanax overnight absolute must free incest stories online The value gay incest advance The key free dog sex pics cash flow dog sex the reduced noise free gay college guys of the period gay guys