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    Posted: 10/16/07 at 9:45pm
How do you go about setting up your theatre season? 
 
Do you choose the show, then find a director? 
 
Do you have directors pounding down your door begging to stage the next great musical? 
 
Or, are you like us struggling to find enough directors interested in putting on shows you deem appropriate for your audience base?
 
And, have you ever been unable to find a director and had to darken your theatre for a month?
 
We happened to get lucky (along with a lot of pushing from our board president) this past year and had a trouble free successful season.  That usually isn't the case.
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bullet Posted: 10/17/07 at 8:58am
At our theatre, I direct.  No one else has the experience ... or the willingness ... to take on the task.  Two others on the board would do well at the task, but are both too busy with other projects.
 
At a nearby theatre, they select their season (usually 2-3 shows) and ask for volunteers to direct.  Sometimes they have co-directors (with their current show, it's MULTIPLE directors ... I don't know how that's going to work!).  They normally run 2 shows that have an adult cast, and then try a show in the summer or winter that includes children (limited in number).
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bullet Posted: 10/17/07 at 9:28am
We have done it a couple of ways in the past... One way was to allow directors to "submit" plays that they wanted to direct.. This was usually in the neighborhood of 10 directors being solicited and each submitting 5 plays. This gave our playreading group some 50 plays to read and select from. Problem being that most of the directors only had one or two that they REALLY felt strong about and to get the other three it seemed like they had just scanned the French cataloge for snippets that sounded interesting... (many were not)  From those plays a well rounded season was hopefully selected (not always the case either)  Getting quality directors finally came to paying a stipend (currently 300 for a straight show and 400 for a musical)  If you haven't gone there yet, Dont. If you can at all help it, keep the camels nose out of the tent! We now pay Music directors, pianists, orchestras, producers, choreographers and the list just keeps growing. (to be fair, I believe we started paying musicians first as they have always been hard to come by.)  Currently, everyone (patrons, members, directors etc) are able to submit plays for review and our playreading committee selects what the colective sees as a well rounded season. Though some thought is given during the "process" who might be available, good at, or has submitted/championed a piece, our director stable, (currently about 6 or 7 perms and another 4 or 5 periferals) is solicited as to interest/availablitlity...  USUALLY it works out.. Do we wish we had more choices, you bet.  New blood can be a good thing.. But it works out..
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bullet Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:51pm
We are a community theater in an active senior community of 1,650 homes. We have quite a few actors and no one wants to direct. We only do one or two plays a year and currently I am the only director. I keep saying "next year I won't direct" but get talked into it. I am chairperson of the play reading committee, help my husband who is ticket chairperson by designing and printing the tickets and I also do all the publicity and write the complete 8 page program and see that it gets printed. Most of the actors only want to act and are not willing to do any of the grunt work. Enough is enough.

Our play reading committee, came up with three good one act plays for our first play next year and it is my hope that new directors will decide they can try on a small play. Our second play will be a full-length play.

If no one comes forward to direct, the whole thing may come tumbling down.

P.S. We couldn't even entice someone to be assistant director.
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bullet Posted: 10/17/07 at 8:36pm
This probably won't help you much Gracie, as we have less than 3 million people in the whole State [Which is supposed to be the largest State in the world. (1/3rd of the 1 Million square KM's of the Aussie land mass)]
I don't know any of the 300 or so incorporated theatre groups here, who pay any directors or production staff, mainly because the Model Incorporate rules preclude any member of a non profit group recieving payments.
Most of these groups have 3 to 5 productions/year, Directors in a lot of cases are from within the group or from other groups. Nearly everyone belongs to more than one group, especialy with the actors, who are like gypsy's & nomadic, moving between groups chasing parts. The same with Directors, who use the the local Independant Theatre Association [Aunty] 'Theatre Australia' web site & network  around the traps to individual groups.
We find  it better to cultivate our own Directors, as we can always find diamonds in the back yard.
With the groups that have thier own theatre to play in, more & more except productions from other groups so they don't have the venue black. Either as a complete Bump In show or just the production team, using local in house members for the show, which is becoming the norm these days.
In the Bush towns they draw upon the influx of young teachers from the local schools a lot to boost  thier production teams. Which in my experiance is a hit or miss situation. As most of them are only there to complete their 2 year manditory regional school stint, before they can be accepted in a City posts. A lot are a total pain mainly because they are inexperianced holding a  degree in english, which they believe makes them all knowing in theatre & drama.- Big fish in a little pond syndrome. But they are enthusiastic enough & bring in new ideas, thus can't be faulted for that, the fact they have no idea is not important - they give it a go?
This is probably why groups in  Bush towns, have a policy of new directors must do a One Act play before being allowed to direct a full blown production. Which back fires when full fledged & experianced directors who choose to retire to these towns, give it away as a joke & the group looses them altogether. Also it tends to protect those in the groups purple circle, who have been doing it for far too long, they are growing & cultivating cobwebs. 
But with only about 1 million to populated the state beyond the Perth metro area - that's life!
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bullet Posted: 11/07/07 at 8:10pm
I think I've got Gaafa beat...I'm here in Alaska, so our per capita is considerably smaller.   Anyway, we are experimenting with an evening of four, one acts as part of our regular season. One executive director to manage everything who is experienced, and four newbies to dip their toes into the directorial pool. We have difficulties getting new folks to direct, so we are hoping that if they can get their toes wet with something small, they'll have the experience and the courage to try something bigger the next season.

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bullet Posted: 11/07/07 at 9:06pm
I've worked with several theaters in a tri-state area, and all chose directors differently.  And a few changed how they did this over the years.   Most paid directors even when they didn't pay other staff.  A few paid technical staff, but not actors. 
 
It seems to be easier to find directors if the director gets to choose the show.  That way the director and the show are what gets approved.  The problem in this approach is that some times you simply have to say 'no'.  Feeling get hurt.  Especially when the prospective director gets turned down because although they've done several other roles people still don't think they can handle directing.
 
Also many small community theaters will look into the communities next to them to find promising directors.  So if my county gets a guest director from the county next door, I get some variety in who directs...and that director gets to work with a different team.  This works particularly well when a director gets to direct a musical when in his home theater they can't stage a full musical.
 
Gracie, has your group considered asking a grad student from a nearby college to direct?  Or if a college is not near, perhaps you could still ask a graduate student in theater who is home over the summer to direct a summer show.  This way the student benefits with a credential--and perhaps can even count it for credit in a course.
 
I know someone on the coast who recruited a professional working in theater in the management area to direct an amateur show.  This professional liked the opportunity because it allowed him to do something he loved, but never got to do.  But he was of course very knowledgeable.  So one approach is to ask people who are in creative fields as pros to take a try at directing.  I recruited a radio personality once to try his hand at something new--in that case acting, when I had too few males for parts--he was enthusiastic because it allowed him freedom to take risks he couldn't take on the air.
 
I've also known a local actor whose main paying gig is doing tv commercial work in two or three nearby big cities.  He often directed shows in my community and others, to allow him to do non-film work--and get an insight into the director's mind.
 
I like Gaafa's comments about asking a prospective director to do a one act before they move to a larger production.
 
Gracie, is your community a small community?
 
 
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bullet Posted: 11/08/07 at 1:15pm

Getting directors to direct is a big problem with us.  We have resorted to having people direct more than one play in a season as a result of lack of directors.  We have coherced actors into trying their hand at directing just to cover the whole season.  We also have directors who do a fantastic job but are not interested in doing mainstream shows (just FYI this will start a whole new thread somewhere) and are only interested in the cutting edge and absurd.  This leaves our regular season lacking in their talent however gives us amazing non traditional season shows.  The bad thing is the regular season shows are the ones that pay the bills.  My personal directing experience came as a result of "Please try it just this one for the good of the theatre."  I'd like to see more directors but they seem to be rather scarce.

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bullet Posted: 11/09/07 at 4:53am
I can see the problem when the group has the need to keep thier own house out of the dark. Unlike  those who use hired venues.
But it seems to me to be an American thingy to pay Directors & what have you, as it does not seem the case in the UK or here as a rule.
I doubt the standard of shows is any better or even worse, across the board. So it may be there is a bigger pool of pro's looking to coin a few bob, then is likely to be here. Thus these bods created thier own niche market in community theatre there?
This is also the same with hiring sets & lighting to do shows. I know a lot of pohmy groups depend on complete show specific set & light hiring, rather than doing thier own thing. Which may be also the case there as well. Of course the availability of heaps of hiring companies helps. Which ain't the case here, as the few only seems to exist thru hiring odd pieces of set, props & lighting gear.
So our markets seem quite different in a lot of respects.
Also it maybe we are too lay back & tend to use our own in house resources - In a she'll be right mate attitude! Resorting to the old beg, borrow & half'inch of the convict ancestors, rather than pay out to hire in.
Although inter group resource swapping has always worked well. Mainly because we are such a small theatre scene & some what remote to the main stream in the Eastern States.
Also I found when I was working over there for a while, there was a large ballet barre between the bods in  Pro & Ameatres, which has never been the case here.
I like Vickifranks idea of touting the local media Directors or even TV Add Directors, to fill your pool. [they might enjoy the chance to clean out & clhorinate?]Wink

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bullet Posted: 11/09/07 at 12:32pm

Our theatre is in a community of 12,000 about 90 miles South of Chicago.  We try to stage 3 shows per summer.

Our directors, producers (who are required to be a board member), choreographer, musicians, pianists, rehearsal pianists are all paid positions.
 
Lately, other than this year, we have had the same 2 or 3 directors.  One guy has been directing our children's production for the past twentysome years.  Another guy (a board member) has directed at least 1 show for at least the last 6 years.  God Bless them.
 
We have another board memeber who has directed in the past, but no longer seems interested, even when it comes down to the wire and we need a show.  Hence, the board member who has been doing at least 1 show per year, directs a 2nd show to bail us out of a jam.
 
Last year, I thought I would try my hand at directing (never having even been on a stage) to help fill the season.  Something with a small cast, one set.  Easy, right?  Well, it worked out differently. 
 
I chose to direct The Guys, a show that pays tribute to some of the Sept 11th victims.  So September was the perfect time to stage it.  We ended up having a 4 show season, instead of a 3 show season, my show being the 'extra one' so to speak, as it was in an off season month. 
 
I have to say after that experience I'll never direct again until I am retired, which is a long time from now.  There simply aren't enough hours in the day to work a full time job and direct a show and do a good job.  Plus the logistics of living 30 miles from the theatre and working 50 miles from home added to the difficulty.
 
For the past few years we had been trying to get the hometown HS drama/english teacher to direct for us again, as he hadn't since '99.  But he had been working on his masters degree and didn't' have the time.  He finally finished and did West Side Story for us this year, which was a huge success.
 
We had some new blood in our executive board this year and I have been talking with our Pres about reaching out to area colleges, other theatres, high schools to solicit directors.  I think our main problem has been we wait for someone to approach us, instead of advertising the fact we are looking for directors.  The little blurb we put in our local paper every year about taking show proposals from directors just isn't enough.
 
We have a much larger area we can draw from.  I sat down a couple of weeks ago and came up with about 100 places within about an hour of us we can send out directors packets to.  We have 5 junior colleges, 4 major universities, numerous high schools, and several other area theatres we can try.  That's not counting any other colleges who may have students attending from our area.
 
We have never had a script perusal committee.  It has always been a director comes to us with a completed proposal form.  Show title, costs, a blurb about the show, expected draw, etc...  The entire board votes yes or no to allow the director to direct the show.
 
I'm really hoping sending out packets to solicit directors is successful.  If not, next year we may have to attend some area shows and hand deliver them.  I'm expecting some of the old guard board members might not like this idea, but I don't know.
 
The only thought I have to weed out anyone who is a totally inexperienced director is to request a theatre work experience history or references from professors.
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