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bullet Posted: 11/02/06 at 4:43pm

How did I miss that comment in the OP?

As the board's resident fat little talentless blob, I should have made some amusing remark about it the first time I posted.  But I didn't, and now it's too late.   

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bullet Posted: 11/03/06 at 7:35am

Eveharrington - i didn't think you were snippy.

the only snippy one here has been moi!

after all, i'm the one who wrote "fat blobs with no talent", hey, I was in a mood o.k?

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bullet Posted: 11/03/06 at 2:38pm

O.K.  I get in those moods too....I almost smacked some doddering old fool in the grocery store parking lot yesterday ( do they always back up without looking?) and yelled at him.  Some days we are all a little cranky. 

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bullet Posted: 11/03/06 at 2:51pm

before he became a doddering old fool he was probably a fat blob with no talent.

 

sorry....

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It sounds like a great deal of your anger, ozarks, comes from the fact your daughter was asked a number of times to audition for this show.  I have often (for nearly every show I've directed) specifically asked people to remember to audition.  This never means I will cast them, only that I want them in the mix because I see a potential. It could be that this particular director was vague on this issue or you misinterpreted their advances.

That being said, being double-cast in a role is not a sign of disrespect, not being cast at all isn't even a sign of disrespect.  Ultimately, it all comes down to the director's vision, concept and overall view of the makeup of the cast.  Make your decision, give 100%, smile and move on.  I always remind actors that every audition, rehearsal and performance is an audition for someone else.  You never know who's watching. 
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bullet Posted: 11/05/06 at 4:29pm

there is no GREAT DEAL of anger. I  merely wanted your comments.

BTW, the last post I made? I thought I was being funny. UPon rereading, it may not have come across that way... but that's how it was meant.

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bullet Posted: 11/08/06 at 8:37pm

Ozarks, I understand how you feel; and ultimately directors have got to learn not to ask people to audition.  Hold auditions.  If the person you want doesn't show up, call them for a private audition before you finish casting.

Above all, realize that everyone in community theatre is a lover of theatre, or they wouldn't be doing it for free.  It's great that your daughter has a wonderful work ethic and an obvious love for stage!  Those are two of my primary goals in my junior-high rehearsals:  teaching the work ethic and nurturing the love for the theatre.  If your daughter already has that and talent--she's definitely worlds ahead of the others.

If your experience with this CT has left a sour taste in your mouth, don't audition.  There are other shows.  Don't ruin a love for the theatre with a bitter experience.

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bullet Posted: 11/10/06 at 11:43am

It's the ultimate role for my kiddo... we both love this director and SM. The director has since told me he's "leaning towards" NOT double-casting.

She's going for it... way too psyched. I'll let you all know how it goes. There's no guarantee she'll get the part and she'll be o.k. with that too.

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bullet Posted: 11/10/06 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by avcastner

...ultimately directors have got to learn not to ask people to audition.  Hold auditions.  If the person you want doesn't show up, call them for a private audition before you finish casting.

First off good luck ozarks!

Not ask people to audition???!!!   Why would one not want to ask people to audition that you have in mind for a role?   And why go through the exercise of a private audition afterwards if they didn't show up?  I would think that would raise more questions and eyebrows than asking folks to try out in the first place.

Asking peple lets them know that you're interested in them and, no NOT as guarantee of a role.    I just think it makes good sense to try and assure that you see people that you really want to see.    Auditioning and casting is by it's nature a subjective process.   Not all actors are created equal whether it be by talent, physical type or some other attribute that they have or lack.   

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bullet Posted: 11/13/06 at 1:37pm

 As a director I wanted to add a few points...

First of all, I never double cast.  It's not that I can't, its just that it doesn't work.  Everyone picks a "winning" cast, and the whole "who gets closing" is something that has more problems than the audition itself. It's true that a lot of theatres and schools double because it makes money....everyone wants to see the "other" cast so they buy tickets to both.  Doubling adults doesn't do the same financially, becuse if you want to make real money, do a show with kids.....more people come see them than the adults.

I agree that some children act more adult that the grown ups do...so use that as a life lesson.  I treat all my cast and crew with complete fairness and respect....but I've known directors that don't.  The key is to look at the whole picture and see if it's worth the show to do it.

One thing I want to add is that you have to be really careful when you "ask" someone to audition.  If you get too heavy with it the actor feels as if you are "promising" them something....and you can't blame them.  If I were to be asked several times to audition, I would feel as if I had the inside track....it's ok to invite...just be real careful about it.

I have always felt honesty is best.  It shouldn't be about the number of performances or the work involved....do you want the part?  How bad?  If the theatre is doing it for the money it really is not up to you to make policy for them....they have bills to pay.  All you need ask yourself (and your daughter) is do I really want this part, and do I care if I share it?  That is the only thing to focus on.  If you feel that sharing a part is not what you want, then just say "thanks, but we are no longer interested"  and walk away.  Please do it before the cast list goes up though.....I hate it when I have to go to the 3rd or 4th person on the list becuse the first one turned me down.  It sets that child up knowing I really wanted someone else first. 

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