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bullet Posted: 10/29/06 at 9:51am

I'm fortunate that I'm happy both sides of the back stage wall.  If I don't get a part I'll take a tech part.  In addition, I see the committment to theatre as a long term investment and if don't get a part in one show I know there will be another one in a few months.

That being said, the most fun I've had at auditions is when both the actors and the director are relaxed.  The best audition was probably was a Beauty & The Beast show where the director had everyone line up in different rows.  The head of each row would read for a part and once that was done, that person could get in any line for a part.  It was fast paced and everyone kept it light.  I didn't get the part I wanted, but I did enjoy the audition.

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bullet Posted: 10/29/06 at 2:37pm

Alternate forms of auditioning are always fun.....including the "i" word (I mean....gulp....improvisations!).  After the auditioners get past the dread of that word and if you choose the right type of improv, they really relax and get into it.  One or two practice ones first to get them warmed up, then the improvs that you really plan to watch for creativity, ensemble playing, focus, cooperative action, leadership, stage presence, etc.  Choosing fun, non-threatening ones is imperative (short or longer ones, depending on how many people you have auditioning and your time constraints), and they really tell you something. Then, once you've gotten their nerves out of the way, you might see some really good, relaxed readings!

Sometimes I even have them tell about themselves as a way of breaking the ice.  No, not the "Hi, I'm Jane, and the most interesting thing about me is that I've got freckles on my back that when connected form a smiley face" type of thing.  Pick a topic that relates to the play they're auditioning for (for instance, for "Octette Bridge Club", I had them tell about their family traditions), give them a time limit and a few minutes to prepare, then turn them loose. Of course, this one works best when you don't have 200 people auditioning! 

 

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bullet Posted: 10/29/06 at 5:07pm
I prefer auditioning in front of a room, as I feel there's more energy for me to play off of in the scene I'm reading.  But I guess I'm hypocritical in that when I direct, I audition privately, because (I'll freely admit), although I give everyone a shot, some people I'll audition for much longer than others, or with different scenes, etc, just going on my gut of how I think they might fit, instead of seeing what different things each actor can bring to the one same monologue and only that.  Callbacks I do open, though.

My favorite audition as an actor was a few years back for Julius Caesar where the director wanted to really get a sense of our mob quality, so he'd have switch us out, having one of us read one of the funeral speeches whilst being heckled, and other such activities.  While improv games can be fun, I think they're inappropriate during an audition unless they contribute substantially to your evaluation of the actors (e.g., if the show requires a lot of physicality and an improv game would demonstrate that, etc.)
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bullet Posted: 10/30/06 at 2:18pm

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Actually, I do believe that improvs contribute to the evaluation of the actors!  I wouldn't do them otherwise.....time constraints at auditions don't allow one to do something that is just a time filler!

As I mentioned in my last post, improvs tell me a lot about creativity, ability to work cooperatively with a group, leadership, stage presence, chemistry......all the things that you also look for in a reading.  Improvs aren't always physical, though those can be illuminating as you mentioned.  There are a lot of activities that focus on verbal participation and interaction. As long as you also leave time for solo and groups readings, I find improvs to be a valuable tool in auditioning.

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bullet Posted: 10/30/06 at 3:09pm
Well, obviously we disagree here.

For the many times I've had to suffer through an (or many) improv exercises during auditions, I've had maybe one time where I understood what purpose it served in evaluating us.

When I direct, I want to know how the actors interact with each other in THE PLAY I'M DIRECTING.  Stage presence, chemistry, creativity will come across in how they read the scenes/ monologues.  Leadership- I don't want actors who think they're natural leaders- they end up being pains in the ass.  I'm the leader.  And ability to work cooperatively in a group?  A bar to that usu. doesn't come across in auditions, improv or not.  I think most actors realize that they should convey civility during an audition.  And topical improvs, like telling about a family tradition... eh.  I don't care what your family tradition is, even if tradition is important to the show, as long as you can handle the character in the scene.

I think sometimes directors use improv not consciously to waste time but because they've been taught by some acting teacher that improv is valuable and don't know any better.  I've never found it to be valuable.  Obviously, you feel differently.  Maybe I just haven't been exposed to directors who understand it enough to use it well, but, in my experience thus far, it just ain't my style.
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bullet Posted: 10/30/06 at 4:57pm
I, too, dislike improv at auditions.  Like Falstaff, I want to hear people read from the script of the show I'm directing.  Whether they can convincingly play an apple tree usually doesn't interest me. I have taught improv in the past and found it takes a few meetings before any sort of synergy begins.  Therefore I never use improv games.  Isn't the audition improv to begin with?  Sometimes you don't know what the director is looking for beyond a one- or two-sentence description of the characters. I use improv to cast improv and sides of the script to audition a show.  I DO, however,  believe improv is important for actors.  Read "Truth in Comedy" by Charna Halpern and Del Close .  
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bullet Posted: 10/30/06 at 6:51pm

Yes, we'll agree to disagree on this.  Obviously we are looking for and see different things in improvs.  I guess if you know what to look for, the improv procedure will work better for you.

I have never been asked to or asked anyone to be an apple tree.  There are lots of other improv exercises out there that are pertinent and that deal with human interactions, situations, and emotions. Perhaps, as you say, you haven't been exposed to directors who know how to use it effectively, or who know the right types of improvs to use.

Improvs also let you see an honest representation of the potential of people who don't read aloud well, but who might give you a terrific performance when given the time to work on and memorize the lines. 

Let's also remember the topic....ways to make auditions fun and less tense.  I made the suggestion as a possible way of achieving this.  Some other people besides myself actually do enjoy improvs, and some even utilize them in auditions!  (see the following website:  http://www.aact.org/documents/AUD1.pdf  )

(I don't know if you have to be registered with the AACT message board to be able to access it or not.)

More suggested reading:  Stage Directions Guide to Auditions by Stephen Peithman (AACT website webmaster) and Neil Offen, ISBN 0-325-00083-2.

Love these spirited discussions!

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It's great to know if an actor can improvise, as long as that's a very small part of what you're looking for. Example: I was in an audition where the emphasis  was  improvisation for several of the lead roles.  One of the actors was GREAT at improvisation, and showed that he excelled there. He got a lead part.

As the show progressed, he continued to show that he was great at improvisation, since he often did that during practice. We hoped that he would include his lines somewhere in there. Finally, during the show, he showed that he was still great at improvisation, and was more than happy to get a cheap laugh. Since I was just acting that time, I had little authority to stop it. Said actor actually stuck to his cues in my scenes, only because he sensed that I had a growing urge to throw him into the orchestra pit.

I regard improv for most shows like I do a car horn: It's supposed to be for emergencies. You should know how to use it, but hope you don't need to during a show. However, other actors think (improv and car horns) that is a cute way of drawing attention to themselves, and do so with abandon.

Like nuclear power, improv can be used for good or evil, and must be handled carefully. Good sub-thread.

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bullet Posted: 10/31/06 at 7:58am

I use improv as part of the audition when improv is part of the performance. In 1940's Radio Hour the first 10 muinutes plus are completely improved. I don't ask actors to sing & dance at auditions for a straight show, or do a dramatic monologue for musical comedy. If they need to improv, I include it as part my auditions. I want to see what their strenghts are in relationship to what I need them to do.

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I actually like the tension in my actors at auditions.  Sometimes it is the only thing I see from them at performance level until performances.  (Some actors need the pressure to blossom.)
 
If I'm casting for a musical, I make sure of two things--can they sing?  Can they act while they sing?  (We never choose dance-heavy musicals)
 
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