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    Posted: 3/20/05 at 2:35pm
I am set for auditions in a week or so and wondered if any other community theater directors have the people trying out sign a committment "to make every effort to be at every scheduled rehearsal."

During rehearsals for our last production (I was not the director) two different actors just took off for a week (not at the same time) for a little trip they always wanted to take etc., and it really hurt rehearsals although the show turned our fine.

The previous director never had anyone sign anything so I thought I would try that as part of the Name, address, phone number info sheet. Does anyone else do this sort of thing?

By the way, our community theater is in a 55+ community where nearly everyone is retired. We only do one show a year and start rehearsals in November (4 rehearsals), December (4 rehearsals), January (2-3 days per week) and February we rehearse 3-5 days a week until show time (last Thursday and weekend of the month).  


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bullet Posted: 3/20/05 at 4:16pm

We use an audition form that has a space on it asking that prospective actors list the dates of any conflicts they have that might interfere with evening rehearsals. We tell them we want the information to help the director plan when to hold rehearsals, not an "if you list anything here, we won't cast you" kind of thing.  Most of the time, you can work around any conflicts, and it can enter into deciding which part you want someone to play -- if they have a night class every Tuesday and Thursday, you may not be able to use them in a lead, but they're OK for a smaller part. Occasionally I've had people come in who say they'll be out of town during tech week; I talk with them and explain why they won't work, and ask them to come back to audition for the next show.

I also require that actors not work another show while mine is in production, and ask for that commitment on the form. My feeling is that one of the two shows is going to suffer from sheer exhaustion on the actor's part. Since I don't want mine to be the one that suffers, I usually won't use them, even if the other show's rehearsals don't conflict with mine. Some people don't agree with that, but I want actors totally committed to my show and my show alone. Hard enough to find the time to learn a part when you're juggling a show, a family and a day job without adding a second show to the mix!

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bullet Posted: 3/20/05 at 4:34pm
Thank you so much Chris. I feel better about my form now.
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bullet Posted: 3/21/05 at 2:34am

made up a ?Commitment Agreement, which was signed by everyone in the cast of ?A Chorus Line?, it sort of worked, but soon lapsed over a period of weeks. Although we stated that if they were tardy & fail to turn, with out contacting us or having an acceptable excuse, they would be replaced!

It last a week before the ?No Shows? started, then I had to decide who I was going to pull the pin on. Actually I never did, they opted out each time, luckily I had the 7 extra bit art dancers, who I promoted in to a role, each time. All the extra?s worked great & I had no need to worry!

So even if you lock them into to an iron clad contract of commitment, it won?t change a lot & in the end it makes not a hapeth of difference!

It is a moral string you can pull &/or use to your benefit.

I hope it will make a big difference to you!

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bullet Posted: 3/21/05 at 11:18am
We use a system like Chris does.  It never ceases to amaze me how many people contact me after the casting process to tell me that they forgot to list the two week family vacation that falls in the middle of rehearsals or that a two day trip turned out to be a ten day trip to England.

There are some actors I won't cast any more because I can't depend on them.  On the other hand, they are all volunteers and they have lives and jobs and families so I am inclined to work around their needs early in the rehearsal schedule and be less accomodating later in the process.  The problem is that being less accomodating would usually mean replacing that actor and that usually turns out to be more disrupting than just having someone gone.

It does take a lot away from the rehearsal process to have a major character gone. 
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bullet Posted: 3/22/05 at 10:54am

I have had success with the conflicts page of the audition form.

Here is how I like to work it: When an actor auditions for me, they fill out an audition form...lots of "name, rank, number" type stuff...but also on the form are the dates and times of  rehearsal, tech week, production etc. This info is followed by a large space for a listing of  any and all conflicts. I save a small amount of time during each audition to ask them a question or two...to get a small sense of the person..and to relax them a bit ... one of the questions is always about the listed conflicts.

This has worked well as it stresses the importance of rehearsal time...and gets them to commit (out loud, in fornt of the director and the SM ) to being available.

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bullet Posted: 5/29/05 at 10:23pm
We have a three strikes and you are out policy. When we have auditions, we make everyone sign a form stating any schedule conflicts they perceive having. If for example, let's say you were auditioning for one of my plays and you listed you were going on vacation in Florida for a week. I would know that up front and I could 1)Cast you with that knowledge 2)Not cast you 3)Make an adjustment to the schedule. However, the three strikes policy applies to any abscenes that were not listed on your audition sheet. The three strikes policy can also apply if you are late three times, it counts as a strike against you. By establishing this up front, we seem to have less problems.
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bullet Posted: 5/30/05 at 12:22am

Conflict listing on an audition form is the NORM for our theater too.  Still, every once in a while, there is one bad apple that decides to take advantage of the director, and it is usually too close to show time to find a replacement.

I can understand about doing 2 shows at once, but if the part is small enough, and the actor good enough, I see no problem with doing 2 shows at once (my personal best is 3 shows at 1 time, but I am insane.  HA HA HA)

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bullet Posted: 5/30/05 at 9:27am

Hi,

We have the same thing on our forms about schedule conflicts. I give them an idea about what the rehearsal schedule will be like ie . .  3 nights a week etc... I list the major events that our happening in the area when I will not be holding rehearsals: high school graduation, the big school concert etc. That doesn't take very long. Just a visit to the school website. We are a very small town. It is actually wonderful that everyone wants to go to everything. It is also easier for me if I know ahead of time.  

I haven't had too many problems, but I have asked actors to chose if they want to do two shows at the same time. I can work around graduation and Aunt Lucy's birthday. I can't work around another director's rehearsal schedule. I made an exception at the beginning of the show I am doing now. One of my actors was asked to step into a role in another theater for two weeks of rehearsal and the performances for an actor who got sick and couldn't finish the show. We made that work, but that was the exception. I couldn't do it for everyone.

I have decided that for first time performers that I need to put another line in about date conflicts. I had a mother ask me if it would be a problem if her son left for boy scout camp on the 18th for two weeks. We open on the 16th and run for two weeks! She just kept looking at me saying the could make all the rehearsals and he was having a great time. I am not sure what she wanted, but I think she wanted me to change the show dates. I told her her son could audition for another show, but if he wasn't going to be at performances it didn't make sense for him to come to rehearsals.

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bullet Posted: 10/13/05 at 12:56am

I don't know how much this response will apply in the community theatre realm, but for all those high school teachers eavesdropping:

I finally had to go to an actual contract that my students and parents of students must sign before a student can audition.  Many of the topics are mundance, such as the costs involved (we charge a costume fee), a tentative rehearsal schedule (tech week can get to be up to 40 hours of rehearsal/performance and missing classes--parents have to agree it's ok to miss classes). 

Some of the less mundane is a statement that a parent will not punish a student by making him stay home from rehearsal, that absences for illness, car accident, and family get-togethers are OK under certain circumstances--and family get-togethers are no longer permissable within three weeks of performance.  (We are not allowed to rehearse every day of the week, and my cast usually has weekends off, so I feel families should rearrange their schedule a bit instead of having grandma's dinner on a Thursday, reschedule to the weekend.) 

We have a drop rule at our school that allows students to drop classes up to a certain point in the semester. But because our rehearsal period usually overlaps semesters, I've had to include in the contract that they cannot drop once they've accepted the role.  (I had to administrative approval on this policy.)  Do you know how disastrous it is to have a student drop 4 weeks into rehearsal?

I also indicate on the contract that by auditioning they are willing to accept any size of role, even a non-speaking role.  They also agree that the director has the final authority in assigning roles.  They can ask about their audition, but no amount of pleading, whining, etc., will change their roles.

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