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DramaMama
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We are getting an early start on next years play and hope to paint a back drop for the show. We always try to incorporate something new in every play we do so the kids can learn new techniques. Often they are new techniques for us as well. I have never painted a backdrop and could use any suggestions I can get... especially reccomendations for paint. I would like to paint something nice enough that it could be used again. I found a lovely old tinted postcard of the French Quarter which we could project onto muslin sketch out and then paint. We do not plan on a full stage back drop... just something perhaps 15 to 20 ft wide and 20 ft high. thanks in advance for advice |
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eagle
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We made a small sketch first. Then the sketch was redrawn more accurately on graph paper. Then we enlarged it onto canvas on which we had drawn an enlarged grid. We made an enlarged outline and then painted it close to the colours on the sketch. Use waterbased colour paint i.e. EMULSION paint mixed with water, i.e. the type you would use to paint walls, that's much cheaper than acrylic. Don't use the paint for doors (i.e. lacquer/enamel paint) as that's too glossy. Oil paint is too expensive and takes to long to dry. We mostly used camel EMULSION paint. Have the foundation colours and then just mix any kind of colour you want. As for some parts we didn't need a lot of a particular colour, we used some acrylic paint to mix them. What kind of backdrop do you have in mind? For what play is it? Edited by eagle |
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DramaMama
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We are doing Boondoggle in the Bayou (or at least considering it) The street scene only gets used a couple times, but it would be nice to fly it out of the way. I only need a suggestion of street, but it would be good to give all of us a shot at painting. I like the graphing idea. I assume flat paint would be best (non glossy) and the biggest problem I have is finding primary colors which are truely primary and can be mixed well to achieve the proper colors. Did you use actual canvas or muslin? Did you size the canvas first? Thin the paint a great deal? Stretch it over something first? How big did you go and did you join (stitch) panels together or use extra wide fabric I appreciate your experience here |
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Gaafa
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Muslin or calico [unbleached} is a much cheaper alternative to that of canvas. In most cases you are able to get this from 60" to 109" wide, off the shelf. [Large upholstery Companies purchase this in bales based on it?s weight & it comes in various lengths, packed straight from the manufacturers machine, rather than in rolls because it?s cheaper - you might be able to do a deal with a friendly local upholster?] I always find it helps to mix size, fire retardant & whitener in one application to apply it, by spilling some on to an area & spreading it out by using a broom or mop to cover it quickly before hanging, as a base to bond & proof the cloth prior to painting. However your local fire department may require the retardant to be applied in some other way? - check with them first, on the method preferred & the best local supplier. By the way with most paint it cheaper to get white bulk paint & add colour tints to mix up your required colours.
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For me, we didn't need to do any stitching as we bought the canvas stitched and according to the size we wanted. We actually went for a bit more of the canvas in length and width because as the paint dries, the whole thing will shrink a little. We had some holes put in the top and sides as well so that it's easier to put up. As for the painting, we had the area covered with flattened used cardboard boxes and newspapers. We laid the canvas cloth flat on the ground. Then we did a layer of white/dull coloured paint first. This formed the basis of the coloured paint. Then we measured the sides and put indicators at intervals according to our graph paper. Say for example, our drawing was drawn on graph paper and the graph paper has boxes of 10 mm each. Our drawing was about 26 boxes so we measured out those on the canvas and then drew a grid. The grid was drawn using something I bought at a carpenter shop. It has a length of string in it and you can pour powdered chalk onto it. After you've drawn the indicators, you lengthen the string so that two people hold it over a meridian/line. A person will be in the middle holding the string as well. Then the 3 people lower the string to the canvas, as it reaches the cloth, the 2 people hold the string tight at the far ends and the person in the middle pulls up the string and then lets go. The sudden release will actually strike the powdered string with chalk onto the canvas so that you will have a straight line. This is done until a complete grid is formed. Then the drawing is enlarged. When we did it, we found out that we had a problem with the measuring system. We actually put the indicators at each foot, but the graph paper was in mm and the rulers were in inches. So it took some math to clear that up but it went fairly alright. The canvas we made our backdrop on is 20 feet by 18 feet. As for paints, if you use enamel paint it is fairly good because you can mix it easily and you can thin it with water. If you want to lighten it, you could use white paint to do that. Afterwards, we hang the backdrop up and we will make some adjustments to some of the features but otherwise it was fairly alright. Highly recommend: Title: Create your own stage sets, Author: Thomas, Terry |
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DramaMama
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Eagle and Gaafa... Thanks so very very much for all your wonderful suggestions. The snap-line idea is a great one and especially good to remember to keep the inch mm thing consistant. The detailed description of the work you guys did is very helpful. I am a person who likes to have as much information as possible before I start a project. I am fairly skilled and creative, but having lots of perspectives on a new task allows for a much less mistake and more good creativity. I especially love book recomendations.. Books are my passion I am also a fiber artist and will always try to use fabric in everything I do. It is interesting how we find different mediums which are more comfortable than others. My husband is great with wood and fairly drools when a truckload of planks goes by. As for me I could crochet a house if I had the right fiber and a big enough hook :) |
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eagle
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another helpful book is "Stage design and properties" by Michael Holt. Compact, with very clear illustrations.
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Gaafa
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20? seems rather high? |
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DramaMama
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We have a lovely new theater space to work in and yes it is a proscenium. the theater seats just over 600 people and it is a nice space to work in. They are a little fussy about the stage though for my taste. We drama people have been warring with the music people to try and get the stage painted black to no avail Music seems to always win :( As to the size of the drop I was just going by my hubby's comments. He is the real power behind the tech and does the designing. I am the gopher. We do have access to an opaque projector as well as a regular projector. I also have some good leather punches. Thanks for the tip. I do not know what an "odd leg protractor" is :) |
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Gaafa
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An ?Odd leg protractor? is simular to a blackboard compass, except that the marking leg is bent. So when you extend to the required size, the marking leg implement is at the same angle, as the holding point of the pivot leg. This does make it marginally more accurate & even wear on the maker, rather than then wearing in down on one side & the mark becoming progressively bigger. But it is not something you would possibly have to worry about for the normal theatre ?gaf? methods we use, unless you wish to be very accurate! Chookas 'DM" |
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