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JCCTony
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I understand that I have never taken a directing class or had any "lessons" but I understand there's obviously a difference between telling the actors where to stand and actually "directing" them and making it your own, adding style etc... I've directed nonsense scenes like where the script isn't anything obvious and you make the story up to go with the script. (chekovians?) and I completely get how you can add your own style to something like that cause with the exception of the actual words, you have a blank slate. How do you then create a style or put your mark on a show where it's very obvious that the actors move from point A to point B on certain lines and make it look natural. Maybe i'm just not creative enough, but if two characters were having a back and forth casual discussion, how would you make it interesting? I mean in real life two people would prolly fiddle with something on the table top or look at each other nodding occasionaly. Any tips? |
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Mike Polo
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Oh, now you've done it... you've picked one of my favorite teaching moments in directing, appropriate movement. It goes without saying that when I usually burst into this lecture, I take the stage and demonstrate the lesson. Observe. Watch people having a conversation at a gathering... observe yourself having a conversation with you SO... watch conversations at work. Movement always has a purpose, either physical or emotional. It ranges from "my leg is sore" shifting too "you're pi**ing me off and I'm going to punch your lights out if I don't get a little distance from you." The key is to make sure the body languange and movement fit the emotion o the character. An angry character taking a step backwards from a confrontation is a very weak move... it weakens the anger and the character. We stand our ground or step into a confrontation when angry... the one who steps back generally is perceived as losing. Somtimes, this is the toughest thing to get across to an actor. Movement generally should have purpose, even if it's just wandering around a room looking at things. Many's the time I've seen a production where I can tell exactly what the director said when they came up with a piece of direction; "I've had this guy sitting here too long... I need to get him up and moving." Unfortunately, they don't ask themselves the $64,000 question; "Why does his character move?" Movement for the sake of movement adds nothing to the show. Movement for a reason adds to character, tells the audience something. Natural movement on stage comes from a combination of direction and acting. An experienced actor with talent can make almost anything look natural. An inexperienced actor or an actor with marginal talent have more difficulty. One thing I always stress to an actor at the beginning of rehearsal, when everyone iis looking uncomfortable and stiff, is that this is their whatever it is; livin room, kitchen, workplace, etc. Do you normally sit on the edge of your couch like a teenager needing $20? Or do you sit back, slouch a little bit, get comfortable? Unless, of course, you're doing an English drawing room period piece with more stylized postures. That's a whole 'nother ballgame. One thing to remember when trying to apply all of this; if an actor has difficulty making a movement look natural, help hem out... change it... play to their strength... after you give them a chance to get comfortable, of course. Another thing is to encourage your actors to add their own movements, fiddling, whatever... praise the ones that work, change the ones don't... you never know where inspiration will come from. I look at directing as a collabrative effort; I'm not the only one with ideas and my ideas aren't perfect. Hope this helps. Have fun!
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ronophonic
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I am certainly no expert at directing..............but have had some critical success at it ................. When directing you are looking to create "pictures" for your audience. Pictures that help to convey the plot............as well as letting them know your viewpoint about all of it. Sometimes you do have to wait to achieve the final blocking you want..........letting the actors have their freedom within the boundaries you have given them for movement. Later, though, when things start to get "fine-tuned" then become more specific with the movement. The initial move that seemed fine may no longer be the most effective. So change it. Your actors are actors........you can change things even during the run of a show if you like. Remember...you want to elicit a response from your audience.....be that through movement or line delivery.......or an intentional pause or move that seems to go against the dialogue (a technique that becomes very powerful if used judiciously). Challenge your audience. They'll surprise you if you give them something to think about. Don't be afraid to NOT USE stage turns. It's perfectly okay to have an actor's back to the audience...even while speaking if it creates the effect you want. Hope this helps.
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dougb
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I agree with Ronophonic - the blocking should consist of a series of
pictures that morph from one to another to tell the same story without
words.
As actors and directors we are seekers of truth - we want to show truth on the stage. I tell my actors over and over not to act but to make the words true for themselves. When the words are true the movement will be true. For an exercise have your actors make a cross on the previous line or the line after. You will see a big difference. When it is right (true) it will jump out at you. I always go into rehearsals with a written out blocking plan but I give my actors a lot of freedom to find what works best for them - more freedom with experienced actors, less with newbies. More freedom in a drama, less in a comedy and still less in a farce. Our final blocking will be somewhat close to my original plan but will vary quite a bit. Sometimes it is clear to me that the blocking is NOT working and we try over and over to find something that does work - sometimes without luck. Sometimes we may revisit a scene a dozen times to find something that works well. With just a little experience you can learn to see whether the blocking works or not. Blocking is not always a grand action - sometimes it is just the turn of a head. One time I was working on a scene from THE LION IN WINTER and Eleanor and Henry are looking into each others eyes and it is clear that they are going to kiss. Henry s-l-o-w-l-y leans in to kiss her and just before their lips touch, Eleanor says "no annulment!" We must have tried a dozen alternatives from a passionate kiss to not even looking at each other but when we hit on that one, I knew it was right. Probably not right for another production with another message but right for us. One suggestion is to make sure you use all of the stage - particularly Down Right and Down Left. Don't let your actors hide upstage of the furniture. To expand on Ronophonic's comment about turns, use the shortest turn. It looks silly to have an actor turn 270 or 300 degrees just to keep his face to the audience when he could have turned 60 or 90 degrees to accomplish the same move. Remember, too, that the theater is an actors medium where movies are a directors medium. It is far easier for a movie director to put his style in a movie (usually in the post production phase) than it is for a stage director to do it. I think your style comes from the vision you put on a play. I have seen several plays done many times by different directors and they are all different. The best plays have a strong, consistant message for the play to convey to the audience - a message that comes from the acting, the blocking, the set, the lighting, the costumes - in short every decision conveys the same message. Hope this helps. Doug |
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Mike Polo
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I once worked with a director on a production of Camelot who was very concerned with creating pictures and he did it very well... the trouble was he had a great deal of difficulty getting people to morph from one to the next. Additionally, his pictures did not always convey the story or the emotion of what was happening. However, the show did make for some beautiful photos. Unfortunately, it was pretty much univerally panned by critics and the audience stayed away in droves. This is not to say the pictures approach doesn't work... I use the approach myself and like it. I was looking more at JCCTony's concern for natural movement. The key to much of what we're talking about is body language; making movement suit the emotion and the characterization developed by the actor and the director. One of the signatures of shows I direct is the natural look and movement of the actors... I hate when the actors' movements contradict the emotion and the characterization. Now perhaps I am making a mistake by differentiating between movement and picture blocking, but never having taken a class in directing, I don't know the language as well as I should. I think an argument could be made that we're talking about the same thing from different angles and perhaps I'm too focused on the actual movement issues, whereas Doug and Ron are approaching it from a pictures angle. Maybe part of the reason I'm writing this (fool that I am) is that, as a photographer, I think of pictures as a static display rather than movement. Like I said, vocabulary. At any rate, JCC, take the best from this discussion, figure out your pictures and make sure the transitions from one to the other are natural and make sense in the context of the play, the emotion and the characterizations and you won't go wrong. Make sense to the rest of you guys? |
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Nyria
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I'm not sure I fully understand your question but here it goes... You said: "I mean in real life two people would prolly fiddle with something on the table top or look at each other nodding occasionaly" - then try that on stage. Have them do some 'stage business' - clean something up, fix a drink - whatever that character might do. In real life you might get up and walk over to the table to pick something up in the middle of the conversation - they can do that in a scene too. Not sure if that's what you're looking for. Also another tip for two people having a conversation - go listen to two real people having a talk. Do they politly wait until the other has finished his sentence and then begin? Not always - have your actors jump on each other's lines sometimes. If that's not what you were looking for - oopsy |
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JCCTony
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Wow, these are all great bits of advice. I think I understand more
about picturing and having the movement and positions of the actors
reflect what's going on in a scene, but I think with my original
question I'm still confused...lemme re-phrase it.
Now I really don't care about winning community awards for theatre or anything, but I know they exist. My mother-in-law has two for acting, but they obviously have em for directing. So if every director essentially has to place his actors to reflect what the script is saying, why do you hear language like "what do you want the play to say?". Won't the play say whatever the playwrite said? I mean isn't that their job? If the script is the same...what makes one production of arsenic and old lace different from the next with the exception of doors or the table being in a different place? |
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Gaafa
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All I know is the all the black bits belong to the author & the white bits of a script are mine, to do what I want with! Have an open mind, as a closed one - won't accept creative accidents! |
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Joe
Western Gondawandaland turn right @ Perth. Hear the light & see the sound. Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"} May you always play to a full house} |
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Mike Polo
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A couple of things come to mind. First off, the blocking notes in a script are generally the blocking from the first production... they are not necessarily the playwight's. They may not even work on your version of the set. I always tell my actors to ignore everything in italics and that I'll tell them which italics they should read. I block a show based on the set and my interpretation of what the show requires. Most scripts' blockign notes are incomplete anyway. I've worked with many a director using those notes who has been painted into a corner and found himself asking, "okay, but when does he GET over there?" Nobody wins directing awards solely with blocking... in fact, I'd venture to say that blocking is only a small part of it. What's more important is characterization and vision. How do you see these characters? What are the underlying emotions and motivations? A director has a profound influence on a play. The playwright merely provides the words. You know as well as I do that delivery is 9/10's of the battle. An example: I worked with a very good director a few years ago on Dearly Departed. Very funny show. However, the director saw the show as a commentary on death, his father, something... anyway, he took much of the comedy out of the show, without changing the piece at all. He did it through characterizations, changes in delivery, etc. He added music to every scene change (there were quite a few) and insisted that it be played at least to a certain point so the audience could absorb the message of the song. The cast, particularly the women, whose comedy had been downplayed, was not particularly happy about the changes, but hey, he's the director. He turned a nice little dark comedy about a family dealing with the loss of the patriarch into a comedy/drama about male bonding in the face of loss. The show turned out to be very different that the one I read... a true testament to what a director who knows what he's doing can accomplish. I didn't always agree with this director, but I have to admire what he did and what he taught me. If you want to "make a show your own," you need to pick a piece that really means something to you, something that grabs you right in the heart. You have to read it over and over, asking yourself why the characters do the things they do, where did they come from (before the play takes place), where are they going? What are the relationships? Go into rehearsal with ideas about those things and talk about them with your actors. I always take at least one rehearsal to talk about the characters in the show... but I don't do a whole lot of talking. I ask questions of my actors. Why does your character react this way? Does your character have a college education? Where does your character see him(her)self in five years? I ask questions about the script and the motivations in it. I make them pretty open ended, no right or wrong answers necessarily, just something to get the dicussion going. Usually, it ends up out of my hands, with everybody jumping in. Then it's up to me to guide it, asking questions; " have you looked at it this way? Considered these lines? Doesn't that change what you're saying?" I find that if I waste half a rehearsal on this process, I gain at least two in how well my actors understand their characters and my vision of them. Of course, in a way, I'm not really answering your question. You have to find that vision that makes your show special. It helps if the show really means something to you. But don't try to change the playwright's intent just for the sake of doing things differently... that's how we get Shakepeare being done in Nazi uniforms and Aida set in the Star Wars future. Granted, those ideas may work for someone, but I prefer my Shakepeare in an Elizabethan setting and my opera far, far away. One more thing; we're doing community theater here. Your responsibility is to your audience, to give them a show they can enjoy. It's also to your organization, to not annoy the audience to the point where they don't come back. This is entertainment. Don't try to force a show to become something it isn't... unless you have a clear idea of what you are trying to say with it. I realize this has all been pretty general, but without knowing more specifics about your show, we can't offer a whole lot... and even if we did, how would you know what was your vision... and what was ours? |
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JCCTony
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Wow, this is the most response i've ever gotten to a question. This has
been great. I've never directed a show nor taken a directing
class...I'm just jumping in, but my soon to be mother-in-law is a
community theatre director so I got some help as far as procedure goes.
I'm also financing this myself so I don't have a board to answer to.
I've ordered Stage Directions Guide to Directing and Directing for the Stage: A Workshop Guide of 42 Creative Training Exercises. Hopfully they'll be usefull. I also have producing a play without a producer and Play directing in the school. I have a lot of reading to catch up on. |
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